How digitally independent are you?

  • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Just for the record, Immich is made by futo, an American organization.

    You can self host it on your own hardware for free to keep your files being on American servers, but it IS an American product.

    This isn’t to shit on futo or immich btw, immich is amazing software and futo is a great org headed by Louis Rossman, the spearhead of the American side of the right to repair movement.

    Edit for clarity: I mention this because of the EU flag in the image, not because this specific post is calling it that away from American products.

  • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    Why Linux Mint specifically, why not just Linux? Or if they want to pick a specific distro, why not Trisquel or another FSF-endorsed distro?

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    I don’t think Thunderbird is a direct alternative to Gmail. The best alternative is to own your own domain name and use your own email server, but that’s really impractical for most people. At the very least, owning your own domain name that you use for your email is way better than relying on a service that locks you in with their own domain name.

    It’s not super easy to set that up, but it’s easier than most people probably think it is. A service with imap support will let you take all your old email with you if you switch providers.

    My own email service, Port87, doesn’t have custom domain support or imap, but I’m working to add both of those features. Any service you use should have both of those if you want to be independent.

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      I’ve never hosted anything outside my home. Aren’t there services that are basically 3rd party Docker hosts for which you could run some kind of email container? Preferably not one of the big three, otherwise why leave Gmail?

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        Yeah, you can rent a virtual host and set up an email server on it. You gotta make sure port 25 is unblocked, which sometimes requires payment (Azure charges for it). Otherwise, you’d wanna look for a specific email hosting provider. You also would need to make sure the public IP you get isn’t on any spam lists, which can be a huge pain in the butt.

        On my service, I specifically don’t use any spam lists that you have to pay to get off of, but a lot of places do (like Apple iCloud).

  • Jeena@piefed.jeena.netOP
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    Here is my list, 15 out of 17 (while 2 are not applicable because I don’t use anything like that):

    I’m not sure if DuckDuckGo and TMap count because they’re both just alternatives but still from big tech.

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      Droid-fy is a material F-Droid client though. And it is better. DuckDuckGo is USA using Bing engine, i am still using it when unhappy with Qwant results though. They need to add more time filters.

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        Droid-fy is a material F-Droid client though. And it is better.

        Completely agree, but I just swapped over to Obtainium and getting releases directly from Github. Highly recommend.

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      5 hours ago

      Actually this might make for a fun propaganda game: Set up a website where every person can mark, for each item on the list, whether they made the switch, so that in the end they receive a picture they can share on social media so as to engage in a low-key “competition” with their friends.

      • doug@lemmy.today
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        Sure, but I mean if we’re going there, it’s not a very popular mail app by comparison to Apple and Window’s default built-in mail clients/they should be in the graphic alongside Gmail.

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        4 hours ago

        While true in a technical sense, you’re gonna confuse everyone with this…

  • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I was about to write a criticism of this infographic then I rechecked and its been updated and fixed my concerns since I last saw it. Good job!

    Edit: Okay found some issues.

    Thunderbird is american. Its run by mozilla, which is a california based non-profit. So still american not EU. But also its an email client, whereas gmail is an online email service provider. There are EU based email services that should be listed instead.

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    Librewolf is not European at all. It’s just some custom configuration of FF, which is eminently from an USA Corp. If FF dies, Librewolf dies as well. That’s anything but “independence”. Same goes for Vivaldi (Chromium) and any other usable browser you may think.

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      What is not politically agnostic? I’m American and the list matches my own almost.

      Only differences are that I am stuck with Android because Verizon, I have Element but no connections on it, firefox instead of librewolf (bc lazy), arch-based instead of arch and I don’t use/need immich and home assistant.

      • How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        The EU flag in the title suggests that they are not looking for alternatives to Big Tech dependence but anything made in America. I am not trying to avoid American tech specifically.

      • Jeena@piefed.jeena.netOP
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        5 hours ago

        Start with a Signal and Discord bridge, they are very stable. Later perhaps you can get WhatsApp and Telegram working. I know it doesn’t bring the other people over, but it’s very convenient to have them in one app on your side.

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        5 hours ago

        My condolences for being stuck with Verizon. Learned the hard way that any phone originally from their network can’t have its bootloader unlocked, even if the manufacturer otherwise supports it.

    • pogmommy@lemmy.ml
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      5 hours ago

      This is about as politically agnostic as it gets. I don’t care for some of the eurocentrism I’ve seen in the ongoing conversation, but it arises from concerns that other western countries are experiencing following their reliance on the increasingly-unstable american empire.