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    I love how no one in the comments specifically mentions his name, like he’s fucking Voldemort or something.

    Jensen Huang!

    gasps

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      CEO of a company that makes the computer part that is most important for gamers. He has a net worth of about 100 billion USD

      Their products are currently better than the competition and they make full use of their position.

      They are known for very high prices, scummy marketing tricks, and abusing their small business partners.

      The company briefly overtook Apple and Microsoft, becoming the most valuable company at around 3 trillion USD.

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        The company briefly overtook Apple and Microsoft, becoming the most valuable company at around 3 trillion USD.

        Because of AI hype

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          It’s not all hype.

          nVidia has some SERIOUS R&D in the use of AI for the past 10 years.

          But using AI in the graphic space… upscaling, downscaling, faking lighting, faking physics… This is all very useful in making videogames.

          Then there was a leap in the way AI Image generation was done with the above hardware. And that opened up a whole new growing field.

          It’s just some people took basic language models that have been around for 30 years and scaled them up with their hardware. And it was neat, and surprising some of the stuff a LLM would output. But not reliable.

          And then suddenly a lot of layman’s got their hand on the LLM’s and thought it was the 2nd coming of Jesus, and started throwing big money at it… it will be surprise to no one who knows how these AI’s work that that big money isn’t going anywhere.

          But those first two, is no hype. It’s a real viable use case for the AI, and money will be made there.

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            Youre missing a lot of events in that timeline tbh :p
            Nvidia forcing developers to use cuda enabled hardware, hard locking their tech to their hardware, the crypto boom of 2016 and 2020, …

            Theyve done a lot of stuff to gamers and datacenters over the past years that made them as powerful as they were when gpt3 hit the public eye.

            Me? Im stearing far far away from them. I dont support that business at all.

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              I’m not defending nVidia’s business practices at all.

              My point is the ‘AI’ hype isn’t hype.

              There’s real value added AI work being done outside of the ChatGPT LLM thing going on.

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                Im not saying you are defending them, youre just missing a lot of stuff that happened around ai and nvidia in your comment and whatever genai we have now isnt all because of nvidia. That its locked to nvidia is because of what they did before ai hit public eyes.
                Current genAI also has not much to do with nvidia besides programs being based on cuda which uses nvidia’s tensor cores for neural processing. From a technical standpoint, nothing ai has to do with nvidia, they just played smart ( and unfair ).

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                That’s fine but the money flows almost exclusively to the latter part, thus making it an economical bubble which will break soon

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                Yeah, but a tiny sliver of their valuation is attributable to the durable and real value of “AI” approaches.

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            But the insane growth is because of hype. Doesn’t mean it’s useless or makes it invalid, but they would nowhere be this big if it wasn’t for the AI gold rush going on with all of their data centre cards being sold out immediately despite 50x profit margins and such.

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        Their products are currently better than the competition

        If you want just a GPU, no they aren’t really better.

        They have some different strengths, so they may fit some use-cases better, but they aren’t out-right better.

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        Okay and for those of us not keeping up with the news, why/how did he insult its own userbase?

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          Since this is about AI, I asked an AI. Bottom line is… I have no idea and the AI doesn’t either:

          How did the CEO of Nvidia insult gamers, artists, and Linux users?

          NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang has made several statements that have been perceived as dismissive or controversial by gamers, artists, and Linux users:

          Gamers:

          In January 2019, Huang criticized AMD’s Radeon VII graphics card, calling it “underwhelming” and “lousy.” He stated, “The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new… [There’s] no ray tracing, no AI.” Such remarks were seen by some gamers as dismissive of competing products and their user base.

          [okay?]

          Artists:

          In January 2024, NVIDIA showcased its ACE microservice, an AI suite capable of generating fully voiced AI characters. This demonstration raised concerns among artists about the potential for AI to replace human creativity and jobs in the industry. While Huang did not directly insult artists, the promotion of such technology led to apprehension regarding the future role of human artists.

          [I guess he made a demo of technology?]

          Linux Users:

          In June 2012, Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, publicly criticized NVIDIA for its lack of support for Linux, calling the company “the single worst company we’ve ever dealt with.” He expressed frustration over NVIDIA’s unwillingness to support Linux systems, which was a significant concern for Linux users relying on NVIDIA hardware.

          [It seems we are factoring in a lifetime of resentment. (But I agree)]

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          Didn’t this guy made us overpriced GPUs and Linux support was problematic before?

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      Not as weird as reddit. Go look at the front page these days. There are posts like “what’s your name?” With thousands of upvotes. Completely worthless drivel is getting driven to the front page.

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      On lemmy.world i would fully believe anyone who said there are 60+ bots boosting any given post (obviously not every post). Thats not a lot when you think about it but enough to give certain posts traction and ensure they stay at the top for days.

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      Definitely losing interest fast in this “reddit alternative”. The politics subs are just as bad, if not worse, than Facebook and Twitter. The communities are just clones of subreddits, after the 3rd party / mod purge. The dumbass comment chains that stopped being funny 5 years ago. Clearly bots being used to influence social issues… Could go on but it’s just more wasted bandwidth.

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        I just see Lemmy as “more Reddit”

        I read Reddit, I read Lemmy.

        Lemmy usually has 60-80 active commenters on any post that makes it to the front few pages of the entire network, which is more than enough cannon fodder for general discourse and discussion.

        I don’t care if two or three ass-hats are using bots. They’re obvious and easy to spot, and everyone downvotes them anyway, and if they don’t, who cares? Move on. This site isn’t governed by any one person or interest, it’s going to be influenced by everyone equally, and that includes cheap shit like bots, because they’re wrapped up in everyone just the same as everybody else.

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      People buy Nvidia no matter what. Even when they aren’t the best choice. Then those same people complain about Nvidia doing the anticompetitive things they do.

      The best is when people cheer for AMD making something great, only so they can buy an Nvidia card cheaper, as if the only reason AMD exists is to subsidise their Nvidia purchase!

      Nvidia’s greatest asset is the mindshare they have.

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        Well that and CUDA still means a load of professionals in various fields are stuck using Nvidia whether they like it or not. This means data centers are incentivised to go with Nvidia if they want those customers, which ultimately means if someone gonna work on code/tools that run in those data centers, you want the same architecture on your local machine for development and testing.

        It’s getting better, but the gap is still real. Hopefully the guys that are working on SCALE can actually get it working on the CDNA GPUs one day, since data centers are where a lot of the CUDA is running or perhaps the UDNA stuff AMD just announced will enable this.

        The fact this is all hinging on the third party that develops SCALE, should highlight that AMD still doesn’t seem to be playing the same game as Nvidia, which is why we’re still in this position.

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          Definitely. CUDA has had a long headstart, and Nvidia were very clever in getting it entrenched early on, particularly in universities and such. It’s also just… generally does the job.

          My above comment was purely on the gaming side

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        100%

        “I want change!”

        *Doesn’t do anything to change*

        “Why hasn’t anything changed?”

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        I would have much preferred giving AMD money instead, but at their best the lack of DLSS performance was meaningful when everyone thought Cyberpunk was the new standard of graphical fidelity with the 6000/3000 series.

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      The linear algebraic computations performed on their GPU’s tensor cores (since the Turing era) combined with their CUDA and cuDNN software stack have the fastest performance in training deep neural network algorithms.

      That may not last forever, but it’s the best in terms of dollars per TOPS an average DNN developer like myself has access to currently.

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        Not OP, but he’s a billionaire. There is no such thing as an ethical billionaire. No amount of work they have done would earn billions.

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                I didn’t say I hate billionaires. They shouldn’t exist != I hate them. You conflate two opinions that could agree as the same thing.

                My stance on billionaires will not change because you thought you hit me with a “gotcha” moment.

                Billionaires should not exist because no person can get to be a billionaire without stepping on others to get there. Billionaires aren’t inherently worth more than anyone else.

                If billionaires exist at the same time of people suffering (homelessness, medical debt and inability to pay for treatment, starvation, etc and the list goes on) then they shouldn’t exist. That amount of wealth is for sociopaths, that amount of wealth is amassed by those lacking empathy, and moral value.

                So take your argumentative behavior elsewhere.

                Go back to reddit ya troll.

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          Not really his fault he is a billionaire. He was an immigrant kid who washed dishes and bused tables til he went to college. He worked his way up and started one of the most successful companies in the world.

          You can hate the system but you don’t need to hate every person in it.

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            I didn’t say I hated him. Point where I did? My critque isn’t about him specifically, it is a critque on a broader topic.

            I didn’t claim to know where he came from, his life, none of that.

            What Is being posited is that billionaires are unethical, they should not exit. This I’d a direct commentary of my disgust with the systems that be.

            Move along.

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              You approved of it being okay to make up negative things about a person simply because they are a billionaire. You’re saying, why fact check this meme, dude is rich so I agree with their nonsense regardless.

              It is always okay to punch up, but it is silly and foolish to punch up randomly. It is a major part of mob mentality and why we are in the position we are today. It shouldn’t be a surprise that billionaires use social media wharrgarbl to fight other billionaires. We literally just saw one use this tactic to influence a major election.

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                Your putting words in my mouth. I said no such thing. I made no commentary on validity of what the OP said or didn’t say.

                No billionaire should exist. Period.

                No one person should amass that much wealth. You grossly misunderstand me. Not that getting through to some internet schmuck means anything.

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    And Linux users

    So he’s not all bad, and let’s be honest it doesn’t take much. Did he suggest using light mode, or tabs instead of spaces?

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      If those kids weren’t busy troubleshooting driver issues, they’d be very upset.

      i don’t know a damn thing about linux, but that seems like something that would happen

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        as a daily linux user, this is pretty funny.

        especially when I’m also a daily Windows user who fights against Windows update downgrading drivers.