• IWW4@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    Yeah Reacher is just fantasy. He eats like a pig, never has access to a shower and he is built like Mr Universe.

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      He does have access to a shower. He stays at motels mostly and very rarely sleeps outside.

      There’s no explanation for that body though as he definitely never goes to a gym.

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        He doesn’t have to goto the gym that often to mantain it, maybe like twice a weak, apparently 1 set to failure a week is enough to prevent hypertrophy so he can get that through the bs he goes through lifting heavy sht and climing.

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          The books have one or two references to him working as a labourer or other jobs between books.

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            Labor jobs don’t make you look like that. They make you hunched over and limping and kinda fat looking. Also an alcoholic

            Source: worked labor in my early years and finally decided to quit just as the hunch started to develop

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          Sorry to burst your bubble, but those don’t work without a lot of gym time.

          If you’re on the juice, but don’t put in the work, your body just gets weird.

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      Alan ritchsons always been big and claims he just consistently works out everyday and eats a lot, and he didn’t work out that much before reacher was still pretty big, after season 1 he started taking testosterone I think if i remember correctly, he talks about it in interviews

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        Thats cool and has nothing to do with what i posted.

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          He in real life doesn’t work out as much as you think he would for his frame prereacher, he was low on testosterone to prior to it. Not that crazy to think reacher went from working out daily to once or twice a weak to avoid atroph. On screen he often does feets of strength that would equal maxing out on weights once a weak.

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      This comment from another post:

      https://piefed.zip/post/1760956#comment_6754022

      There’s this story that Mark Hammil tells about being on the set of Star Wars and he mentions to Harrison Ford that their hair should be wet, since it was just wet in the previous scene.

      And Ford says something like, “This ain’t that kind of movie, kid. If the audience is talking about our hair, something has already gone wrong.”

      The same goes for Reacher, even the books. They’re great, easy and fun to read, but if you start thinking about it like that something has already gone wrong.

      Even so, I have to say that the books concentrate more on him just being really tall without being thin. And trained both mentally and physically, but never just muscled.

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        Even so, I have to say that the books concentrate more on him just being really tall without being thin. And trained both mentally and physically, but never just muscled.

        I don’t recall which one, but he’s shot in the chest by a small caliber revolver and his dense pectorals actually stopped the bullet.

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    I mean it’s fiction. That part isn’t half as unbelievable as the cops and feds being the good guys

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    A friend of mine was shocked when I offhandedly mentioned The Rock’s likely steroid budget. “You think he uses steroids?!” she asked. This was during his monstrous peak years.

    I’m also reminded of the reddit story where a guy’s girlfriend or wife suggested that he go to the gym to get into slightly better shape. Nothing excessive, “maybe like Jason Momoa in Aquaman.”

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    This is just a trope everywhere and it’s absurd. Like Project Hail Mary. Yep, a school physics teacher is chiseled and looks like a shaggy sex teddy bear dog. Just like every other physics teacher I’ve met. Yep.

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      In the case of Project Hail Mary they have an “answer” as to why. The book directly explains it and the movie nods at it in a scene where he writes “Muscles?” on the white board, but its the coma robot, Armindo. It was meant to work their limbs and apply electrical stimulation so they wouldn’t atrophy on the trip.

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        Not only that, but when the main character wakes up at the start of the book, he is baffled as to why he’s so muscular. I guess the problem with the movie is that he wasn’t visibly skinnier during the classroom flashback scenes.

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          The problem is they had a seven-ish hour pre cut, a four and a half hour directors cut, and the two and a half hour theatrical release. The original pass on the movie probably explains everything. If I’m being honest I’d gladly give up the karaoke scene for the 10 or so 30 second explanation scenes we could have had in it’s place.

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            Yeah, I enjoyed the movie and thought it was a pretty decent adaptation, but it’s still an adaptation of a hard sci-fi book for general audiences. The start of the book, where he’s coming up with ways to figure out where he is, using Newtonian physics and common objects, was a ton of fun for nerds like me, but would be boring af for regular audiences.

            It reminds me a bit of Contact. The book is amazing. Sagan explains how one might communicate with an alien intelligence, starting from the basics of detecting signals, to communicating basic logic and mathematics, to communicating engineering diagrams. Pretty much none of that was covered in the movie, but it was still a good adaptation.

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      So, I was watching ‘The Getaway’ with Steve McQueen. That movie was made when McQueen was one of the top box office draws in the world. He takes off his shirt and, to me, he looks a little scrawny.

      A while later, I’m watching a movie where the shirtless guy is supposed to be a middle-aged lawyer with a minor drug problem. Looks like he could throw McQueen through the wall.

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        Harrison Ford went on an intensive regime of exercise with a famous fitness trainer in order to get into peak physical condition for Temple of Doom:

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          If you watch the movie, you’ll see his abdominal muscles as he’s breathing heavily. Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that his physique is a bit more impressive than what a single photo might indicate. Definitely not the modern, roided-up action star physique. I wonder if he was even getting pumped before shooting, like modern actors do.

          Some other examples are Christopher Reeve as Superman, Tom Selleck as Magnum PI, and Erik Estrada as Ponch in CHiPs. All were seen as strong, fit leading men in the late 70s and early 80s. Schwarzenegger is probably the main reason that roided-up physiques became so mainstream, along with WWF/WWE. Both exploded in popularity around the early 80s.

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          A friend told me that he wanted to buy his nephew a Luke Skywalker action figure; he wanted the lad to have the same one he’d grown up playing with.

          When he went to the store, the figure they had was bulked up. Looked nothing like the real Mark Hamill.

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      I know, I would prefer if actors were undisciplined fat slobs who give you the performance they feel like giving you between KFC buckets. That’d be more real

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        Brendan “Fatso” Fraser was such a terrible actor in The Whale, you could really tell he had one hand in a KFC bucket at all times. I’d much rather watch my favorite actor Dwayne “The Rock-Solid” Johnson muscle the emotions off the screen with his giant Johnson. Muscle is discipline and discipline is good acting, it is known.

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    Come on! You have to at least give the guy a farmer’s tan or something! How is he ripped AND perfectly bronzed?

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      The books are fucking awful, so no surprise the adaptation would be too.

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        The best way I’ve heard it described is like if Sherlock Holmes was written by Tom Clancy.

        Reacher is not a thinking man’s story and comes with the baggage that the story is delivered through the lens of a stereotypical Republican hero, but I had fun with the TV show despite all that.

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          its like most other similar novels. very shallow and not very in depth, you can tell by the chapter lengths, and its very republican/conservative leaning, as the authors are.

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          Well that’s a disservice to Tom Clancy, his books took liberties but were fairly well researched.

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          The books are just the same if you take them for what they are; easy to read kiosk literature.

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      The weird thing is that the first 2 seasons were ok. Not great, but ok. this season is very bad. Like they fired the writers and ChatGPT wrote it. The story is nonsense.

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    I mean, he isn’t even remotely close to 300lbs of pure muscle. But yes, even with a lifetime of a perfect diet and gym routine most people will never look like this. Like is the case for so many other Hollywood actors, there are clearly steroids involved

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      This can happen in a lot of mammals, including humans. One of the really popular “strongmen” guys, like the top one, has it.

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        You can even get a shot that activates that mutation if you are rich enough. See Bryan Johnson

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      apparently the mutation makes whippets unable to run long periods of time or have high amounts of activity, due to the amount of muscle. its actually bad for the breed, the normal whippet is athletic.

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    Watched it for the first time recently. I thought Reacher was autistic because he seems so socially awkward and has a monotone, emotionless delivery of dialogue.

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      He’s spent his entire life in the military one way or another so most of his life was super structured. Then once he’s gone he just Hobo’s his way around the US. It’s common for his character to be quiet since “Reacher says nothing” is frequent in the books.

      It kinda goes back to the old saying. A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool, because he has to say something.

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      Honestly, every time I’ve seen an episode, I imagine him delivering Sheldon Cooper’s lines from an episode of Big Bang Theory.

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      He would definitely be on the spectrum like most near genius hyper observant style dectives. Maybe more sociopath than autistic. He’s basically a super buff Ender from Ender’s Game.

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      He has a very strong moral justice bent, likes things a certain way or not at all, likes wear certain clothes only, so yeah the show plays him and Neagley as autistic.