Yes, languages and words and their meanings change with time, both words were once the same.
Job should be read from the perspective that humanity, by choosing to turn away from the source of all life and good, has only death and suffering as its just existence. Every moment that anyone has that is not death and suffering is a gracious gift of love from God. Job even acknowledges that all he had was not his, just loaned from God.
Also would still love to hear about god’s jealousy. Why would I worship a jealous god?
Edit: Nah, never mind. This conversation is over. I’m not going to attempt to rationalize with someone who thinks suffering “is a gracious gift of love from god”. Makes me want to fucking vomit.
Why? We have the gift of life, even as we choose death, we have good things even as we choose to turn away from good, that is a message of pure love, why is it gross?
Satan in this context is not “the most evil entity that has ever existed”, but The Accuser, his objective in the story is to convince God that humans don’t deserve any of the good things He gifts.
God’s point is that He will continue giving us life and good things even as we don’t deserve it.
So god wants everyone to come to know him, but you need a graduate degree and six different levels of context to understand the second book in his collection of books? (i’m referring to Exodus, I know Job isn’t the second book).
And this god is all-powerful
Also, how come it takes so much context to understand Job, but people’s interpretations regarding homosexuality require none? So things only have several layers of complexity when it suits you?
These are 5000 years old stories written down 3000 years ago, some study, of course study of context is necessary.
I agree with your point on homosexuality, it also requires study, that’s a reason today’s Christianity is so sick and away from the message of love from the Bible.
These are 5000 years old stories written down 3000 years ago
You really aren’t doing much to help your case. With this context, can you provide a single piece of evidence to prove that any god exists? Doesn’t even need to be your god (though, that would obviously be the next step)… Any higher power or supernatural anything whatsoever.
After all, as the one making the extraordinary claim, you are the one who must provide the extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you. And “faith” does not fit into my worldview.
Yes, languages and words and their meanings change with time, both words were once the same.
Job should be read from the perspective that humanity, by choosing to turn away from the source of all life and good, has only death and suffering as its just existence. Every moment that anyone has that is not death and suffering is a gracious gift of love from God. Job even acknowledges that all he had was not his, just loaned from God.
Fucking gross. You’re in a death cult, wake up.
Also would still love to hear about god’s jealousy. Why would I worship a jealous god?
Edit: Nah, never mind. This conversation is over. I’m not going to attempt to rationalize with someone who thinks suffering “is a gracious gift of love from god”. Makes me want to fucking vomit.
You read wrong what I wrote, every moment that is NOT death and suffering is a gift from God.
Just as gross.
Why? We have the gift of life, even as we choose death, we have good things even as we choose to turn away from good, that is a message of pure love, why is it gross?
It’s gross because you are surrendering your autonomy to an entity that you cannot provide a single shred of evidence for existing.
Satan in this context is not “the most evil entity that has ever existed”, but The Accuser, his objective in the story is to convince God that humans don’t deserve any of the good things He gifts.
God’s point is that He will continue giving us life and good things even as we don’t deserve it.
So god wants everyone to come to know him, but you need a graduate degree and six different levels of context to understand the second book in his collection of books? (i’m referring to Exodus, I know Job isn’t the second book).
And this god is all-powerful
Also, how come it takes so much context to understand Job, but people’s interpretations regarding homosexuality require none? So things only have several layers of complexity when it suits you?
These are 5000 years old stories written down 3000 years ago, some study, of course study of context is necessary.
I agree with your point on homosexuality, it also requires study, that’s a reason today’s Christianity is so sick and away from the message of love from the Bible.
You really aren’t doing much to help your case. With this context, can you provide a single piece of evidence to prove that any god exists? Doesn’t even need to be your god (though, that would obviously be the next step)… Any higher power or supernatural anything whatsoever.
After all, as the one making the extraordinary claim, you are the one who must provide the extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you. And “faith” does not fit into my worldview.