I mean yeah you can think young girls are beautiful while also recognizing that for several reasons, dating them is a bad idea. You’re trying to completely normalize thinking only with your dick and claiming anyone who doesn’t do that is a snob. Weird.
I agree. If it’s consensual and no one is hurt by it, it’s no one’s business. The problem is, I don’t think underage people (who do still have sexual feelings and needs) can really know either what an older person is capable of doing to them, or whether it’s going to end up in a horrible mess. Yet it would be a lie to say these things don’t happen and that underage kids never show sexual behavior around each other.
Kids do have sexual feelings and just as God gave us a brain he gave each of us gonads and hormones. Sex itself as an act isn’t a bad thing at all - it’s just the way that people use others and treat them as garbage that makes it necessary to draw boundaries.
Actually what I’m trying to show is that almost all men think with their dick and all men have some attraction to teens. That’s just human nature, we try hard to pretend we DON’T have those feelings, because we’re taught it’s evil and wrong, but it’s really just normal. Not to say you should act on those feelings, I’m just saying that it’s normal to have the feelings.
Whether or not this is true, ‘attraction’ doesn’t mean ‘date,’ let alone ‘fuck.’
I find some of my wife’s friends attractive. Not even teens. My age, so no appropriateness issues. I also have no interest in dating or fucking them. Believe it or not, you can find someone attractive and not immediately start taking your clothes off.
And I never said anywhere in my statement that “attraction” means “date” or “fuck.” However it would be a complete lie to say that men don’t want to do those things to teen girls or even younger girls. You know it’s a lie, I know it’s a lie, everyone knows it, yet we all act like “Oh no I would NEEEEVVVVEERR feel that way.” Yeah right.
Somehow I knew that saying all men are attracted to attractive young people would result in people deliberately misrepresenting my words. It’s a rabbit hole I refuse to go down, you believe whatever you want to because I don’t care enough to argue about it.
How old are you and why is this entire conversation about old men and young women? I remember my ex (around 30 at that time) saw someone from the back, said wow (to me, he didn’t catcall them or anything), they tuned around and it was like a 14 year old and he was so offput by that, he didn’t find the teen attractive, he found the 25 year old looking body type attractive. And remember a French lady at a swim meet bemoaning the modest swimsuits half the girls were wearing, she thought they were beautiful and young and should show off their bodies, not hide them. I don’t think most guys actually find teenage girls sexually attractive, but most people can find them physically beautiful.
I do know a couple of happy age gap couples in both directions, but none who started out with one a teenager.
Well I’m 65 now but didn’t mean to steer the conversation in that direction. Really I don’t think age should matter (except when we’re talking about kids) in being able to see someone younger as being attractive. I mean, those two girls in the photo - am I wrong, or are they attractive? That admission doesn’t mean I’m suggesting an older man should hit on them.
And they look like they are dressing to be noticed as being attractive. I wouldn’t cat-call them either, because that’s a kind of harassment and I’m not saying they should not be out in public looking attractive. I’m just saying we should be mature enough to admit that we (guys) like to see this kind of thing and it isn’t any shame to say that beauty and youth go together.
Different kinds of beauty. No I don’t find the ladies in the picture beautiful (55 year old straight lady) they look good but no not beautiful. Sort of like mannequins.
When I was young I worked in a health food store and these 40-50ish ladies would come in and they were so utterly gorgeous I felt unripe and shallow, unfinished, not pretty. I aspired to look that good at midlife and while I don’t think I quite made it to that level, do feel better looking now. 45 was my vampire age, if I could have stayed any age that was it, but this is not bad either.
But yeah of course - young actually beautiful people have a glowing aliveness, good skin, can look good without taking care of themselves. I don’t personally find it sexy and don’t feel I ever had it, but it’s so lovely. Old beautiful people have depth, have felt pain and joy and love, and loss, they have beauty too.
(ETA - you are getting slammed here probably for making generalizations about “all men”. You aren’t wrong in your own attractions, people like what they like. I just don’t think you can generalize to all guys.)
And I’m not saying I find those girls beautiful either, only that they’re attractive. They aren’t my personal definition of beautiful but it would be untrue to say I find them unattractive.
I remember having lunch with one of the professors I worked with at the Univ of Utah and he looked up at a passing male student and said, “now there’s a good looking guy, i wish I looked like him.”
A perfectly innocuous comment but I felt like, hooray for him for being confident and bold enough to say something like that.
Youth and beauty are linked in our western civilization. Some societies value their elderly as ‘beautiful’ people, but not necessarily as sexual icons. In the West, we see young people as sort of defining what “beauty” is. And let’s be honest, like you said, they have features such as glowing skin and youthful exuberance that add to their attractiveness.
That’s all I’m saying - and yes I’m aware I’m making generalizations (which I think I acknowledged somewhere here) and that always prompts people to slam me, but after all I’m not here for popularity or to get upvoted.
If all I wanted was to feel popular or well regarded, I certainly wouldn’t look for that from a social media site. However I do appreciate your comments and your willingness to converse in an adult way.
I mean yeah you can think young girls are beautiful while also recognizing that for several reasons, dating them is a bad idea. You’re trying to completely normalize thinking only with your dick and claiming anyone who doesn’t do that is a snob. Weird.
Luckily tinder is only for finding committed relationships so nobody would ever have ANY REASON to do this.
Swipe left, swipe right, fuck your neighbors daughter, whatever as long as it’s consensual. It is nobody else’s business.
Can do!
Go get em tiger!
I agree. If it’s consensual and no one is hurt by it, it’s no one’s business. The problem is, I don’t think underage people (who do still have sexual feelings and needs) can really know either what an older person is capable of doing to them, or whether it’s going to end up in a horrible mess. Yet it would be a lie to say these things don’t happen and that underage kids never show sexual behavior around each other.
Kids do have sexual feelings and just as God gave us a brain he gave each of us gonads and hormones. Sex itself as an act isn’t a bad thing at all - it’s just the way that people use others and treat them as garbage that makes it necessary to draw boundaries.
Actually what I’m trying to show is that almost all men think with their dick and all men have some attraction to teens. That’s just human nature, we try hard to pretend we DON’T have those feelings, because we’re taught it’s evil and wrong, but it’s really just normal. Not to say you should act on those feelings, I’m just saying that it’s normal to have the feelings.
Whether or not this is true, ‘attraction’ doesn’t mean ‘date,’ let alone ‘fuck.’
I find some of my wife’s friends attractive. Not even teens. My age, so no appropriateness issues. I also have no interest in dating or fucking them. Believe it or not, you can find someone attractive and not immediately start taking your clothes off.
And I never said anywhere in my statement that “attraction” means “date” or “fuck.” However it would be a complete lie to say that men don’t want to do those things to teen girls or even younger girls. You know it’s a lie, I know it’s a lie, everyone knows it, yet we all act like “Oh no I would NEEEEVVVVEERR feel that way.” Yeah right.
Every man wants to fuck teenage girls? You really believe that?
Somehow I knew that saying all men are attracted to attractive young people would result in people deliberately misrepresenting my words. It’s a rabbit hole I refuse to go down, you believe whatever you want to because I don’t care enough to argue about it.
Deliberately?
How old are you and why is this entire conversation about old men and young women? I remember my ex (around 30 at that time) saw someone from the back, said wow (to me, he didn’t catcall them or anything), they tuned around and it was like a 14 year old and he was so offput by that, he didn’t find the teen attractive, he found the 25 year old looking body type attractive. And remember a French lady at a swim meet bemoaning the modest swimsuits half the girls were wearing, she thought they were beautiful and young and should show off their bodies, not hide them. I don’t think most guys actually find teenage girls sexually attractive, but most people can find them physically beautiful.
I do know a couple of happy age gap couples in both directions, but none who started out with one a teenager.
Well I’m 65 now but didn’t mean to steer the conversation in that direction. Really I don’t think age should matter (except when we’re talking about kids) in being able to see someone younger as being attractive. I mean, those two girls in the photo - am I wrong, or are they attractive? That admission doesn’t mean I’m suggesting an older man should hit on them.
And they look like they are dressing to be noticed as being attractive. I wouldn’t cat-call them either, because that’s a kind of harassment and I’m not saying they should not be out in public looking attractive. I’m just saying we should be mature enough to admit that we (guys) like to see this kind of thing and it isn’t any shame to say that beauty and youth go together.
Different kinds of beauty. No I don’t find the ladies in the picture beautiful (55 year old straight lady) they look good but no not beautiful. Sort of like mannequins.
When I was young I worked in a health food store and these 40-50ish ladies would come in and they were so utterly gorgeous I felt unripe and shallow, unfinished, not pretty. I aspired to look that good at midlife and while I don’t think I quite made it to that level, do feel better looking now. 45 was my vampire age, if I could have stayed any age that was it, but this is not bad either.
But yeah of course - young actually beautiful people have a glowing aliveness, good skin, can look good without taking care of themselves. I don’t personally find it sexy and don’t feel I ever had it, but it’s so lovely. Old beautiful people have depth, have felt pain and joy and love, and loss, they have beauty too.
(ETA - you are getting slammed here probably for making generalizations about “all men”. You aren’t wrong in your own attractions, people like what they like. I just don’t think you can generalize to all guys.)
And I’m not saying I find those girls beautiful either, only that they’re attractive. They aren’t my personal definition of beautiful but it would be untrue to say I find them unattractive.
I remember having lunch with one of the professors I worked with at the Univ of Utah and he looked up at a passing male student and said, “now there’s a good looking guy, i wish I looked like him.”
A perfectly innocuous comment but I felt like, hooray for him for being confident and bold enough to say something like that.
Youth and beauty are linked in our western civilization. Some societies value their elderly as ‘beautiful’ people, but not necessarily as sexual icons. In the West, we see young people as sort of defining what “beauty” is. And let’s be honest, like you said, they have features such as glowing skin and youthful exuberance that add to their attractiveness.
That’s all I’m saying - and yes I’m aware I’m making generalizations (which I think I acknowledged somewhere here) and that always prompts people to slam me, but after all I’m not here for popularity or to get upvoted.
If all I wanted was to feel popular or well regarded, I certainly wouldn’t look for that from a social media site. However I do appreciate your comments and your willingness to converse in an adult way.
You’re justifying.
Oh yeah I sure as hell am! Thanks for “getting” what I’m trying to say about you and me and everyone we know.