• books@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Shouldn’t you be filming for the device?

    Like tiltok should be vertical and yt should be horizontal?

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      6 months ago

      I’d say you should be filming for the content.

      Someone on a pogo stick in the backyard? Vertically.
      Your pet running around in the backyard? Probably horizontally.
      Your friend planking in the backyard? Definitely horizontally. Not at all, get new friends.

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        6 months ago

        As an artist this is how I’ve always thought about it. Shooting a group of five people vertical is suboptimal. There’s too much wasted frame.

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          But if all you’re going to use the video for is social media then you’ll have to crop the video and get weird ratio with worse quality. so if it’s for Instagram stories why not just take the video or photo vertical so you know it’ll work.

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            6 months ago

            I don’t really use social media so it doesn’t come up for me often. Nevertheless, just because a platform forces me to use an orientation doesn’t mean that orientation is a good fit for the subject I’m shooting.

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      6 months ago

      Until Vine and later tiktok, basically the whole Internet was in the horizontal format and vertical videos would play with huge black boxes on the left and right and in turn you can’t really make out the details of the videos as well because they were so small on those screens. Today’s internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.

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        Today’s internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.

        It absolutely makes sense. You can design whatever you want for vertical videos but it makes no difference if the actual content isn’t designed for it.

        How many times have you seen videos with multiple people falling out of frame while simultaneously half the frame consists of ground and sky? Then the camera operator viciously whips back and forth to try to capture everything, creating a jarring fuckin video? How many times do you see TikTokkers trying to contort their bodies so you can actually see what’s going on in the image behind them? What difference does the size of resolution of the image make when half of it is consumed by nothing important?

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              6 months ago

              Once you’ve got everything you can just crop to where the action is happening later, as well as chose a different aspect ratio if need be

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                6 months ago

                Crop it? Sooo then you’re just back to horizontal but at a significantly degraded resolution…

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                  Not really. Most phones can film in 4k and most services compress it to absolute shit anyway nowadays. You’re not losing much but cropping first

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          It’s often hard to adapt already existing horizontal videos into vertical videos, but the current high prevalence of vertical video platforms create incentive to create better editing tricks. I personally am often surprised how they accommodate for these situations now a days

    • It slightly annoys me when looking for YT vids on a subject and the results are full of 10 second vertically filmed shorts 🤦‍♂️. Some are fine in some cases I guess, but the majority are just noise IMO

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      You should be filming for your subject and media devices should be built around common filming aspect ratios. A phone camera’s aspect ratio should be practical for capturing typical content, a phone screen’s aspect ratio should mirror phone cameras, I think this is already approximately the case. Phones are somewhat unique compared to say a TV because they can easily be viewed vertical and horizontal, so really they have two aspect ratios.

      I think the vertical photo and video phenomenon is more a symptom of how we use our devices. People are rapid fire swiping through media which means the majority aspect ratio is going to push the minority one out, which is why landscape is dead. Another reason I believe is people switching between apps, Tiktoking at the same time they use other social media for example, and often those apps are way more practical in portrait.