Note I did not buy any food for myself.

To head off questions:

  1. No, I couldn’t cook for her. I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.

  2. She’s extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.

  3. We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they’re all at least this expensive.

  4. No, I didn’t also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it’s nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.

  5. We’re in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.

Edit: Turns out what I should have been infuriated about is people repeatedly telling me to get takeout and having to repeatedly explain why that wasn’t an option, having people not believe I’m sick, and being repeatedly berated for not magically knowing food coupons exist on the internet when I never order food on the internet. Oh right, and also being a bad parent for not forcing food my daughter doesn’t like down her throat or starving her if she won’t eat it.

By the way, I have another thing to be infuriated about. A huge storm came in and this happened to our trees. I assume I will start being berated for not cutting them down before that happened, but because I have no power or internet at home and have to go to the library to post, your further posts telling me what an idiot I am and how I’m an awful parent and how I’m not really sick will take me a while to read. Sorry to ruin your day. Maybe you’ll find someone else to treat like shit.

Anyway, have fun telling me I’m the worst person on Lemmy, just don’t expect a quick reply.

Oh, and do tell me how stupid I am for not knowing that people who clear up and fix such damage have coupons on their website.

      • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
        37·
        4 months ago

        Someone drove you some hot food and you give them $4? You’re like Steve Buscemi in reservoir dogs.

        • badcommandorfilename@lemmy.worldEnglish
          91·
          4 months ago

          NO! I don’t think you understood at all!

          Someone else hired a person and paid them 3.49 to drive hot food around.

          Then a customer, who also paid the first person paid the driver more than their employer did.

          If I could slap you over the internet right now I would.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            4 months ago

            It’s not a high tip, it’s just a very low wage. So proportionally, sure, the tip is very high, but the root issue is criminally low wages.

          • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
            25·
            4 months ago

            You want to slap me because I wanted pizza and then I also wanted the person who drove the pizza to my apartment to also be able to afford pizza?

            I don’t condone the system, this is simply the pizza system that exists where I live.

            • badcommandorfilename@lemmy.worldEnglish
              32·
              4 months ago

              The slap was because you were blaming the person who actually contributed more to the driver.

              The correct response is: Wow! The delivery fee was only 3.49! How do they expect someone to work for such a pathetic wage!

              • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                4 months ago

                Jokes on you… the delivery fee doesn’t go to the driver. Only the tip goes to the driver. That’s how fucked up this whole situation is.

          • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            4 months ago

            I wish I lived in a country where this was the case.

            They are paid a base minimum wage plus tips to drive their own vehicle around all day, paying for their gas, insurance, frequent oil changes and tire wear, putting miles on their car further depreciating the value… the whole point of being a driver is for the tips. Even when people tip well the drivers are mostly taking a loss with the usage of their own cars.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              And also when you say “minimum wage” it’s actually less than the legal minimum wage, because our regulators have been systematically gutted for decades.

        • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          31·
          4 months ago

          I pay my delivery drivers exactly 0 tips. They’re paid a living wage, no tips needed.

          • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
            62·
            4 months ago

            In the USA the delivery drivers live off of the tips… it’s not just high school kids working a summer job. A lot of drivers are working a second job to support their families.

            If you live in a major metro area in an apartment building, gain yourself a reputation for tipping decently and you won’t have to leave your apartment. Tip poorly and you will have to meet them down on the street.

            It’s not something I voted for, this social contract existed long before I was here.

            If I had a vote to abolish the tip system, I would. In the meantime I make sure to tip decently so that the person who gave me service can keep a roof over their head.

      • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        4 months ago

        I’ll put it this way… for dine in tipping, 20% is fine. If you order a cheap meal by yourself at a restaurant, that $4 tip on a $20 meal is fine. The server probably didn’t have to spend more than a few minutes with you.

        If you are a table of 5 with a bunch of drinks and a $200 tab, the server probably earned their 20% of $40.

        For delivery, a flat rate makes more sense. If someone delivers 3 pizzas and some wings for $100, did that take much more effort than delivering 1 pizza for $20? Same number of steps taken, miles driven, gas used, time used, etc.

        $8 to $10 makes sense for doorstep delivery in todays economy. $5 was fair pre-pandemic.

        If you are getting a whole bunch of stuff delivered then I can see justifying a bigger tip, but probably not percentage based.

        A $4 tip on delivery means the driver is taking a loss or maybe breaking even. They shouldn’t have to suffer because you had a small order.

        The service you receive for delivery is not as directly correlated with the total ticket amount as much as dine in might be.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          63·
          4 months ago

          I was given four options for a tip: 10%, 15%, 20% and custom. I gave the maximum offered. Now you’re berating me for not giving more?

          20% has been the tipping standard in the U.S. for decades now. For everyone who gets tipped.

          So I have no idea where you’re getting this from or why you’re berating me for doing what was expected. Maybe berate everyone else who orders pizzas too and not just me since you’re one of the only ones tipping more than 20%.

          • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
            22·
            4 months ago

            I’m not beating you, take it easy.

            Ask some delivery drivers in any major metro / high COL area in the US.

            Flat rate tipping for delivery is a lot more common than you might think; things have changed in the last 4 years.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              33·
              4 months ago

              I’m in Indiana and not in a major metropolitan area.

              Which I also said in my post.

              • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
                22·
                4 months ago

                While the dollar amount I suggested is particularly applicable to metro / high col areas, the concept still applies. The same expense/effort on behalf of the driver exists for a $30 delivery as with a $130 delivery.

                The same cannot be said for dine in.

                Flat rate for delivery, percentage based for dine in is a sensible solution which I didn’t come up with myself. More sensible of course is fair pay which negates tipping altogether but we aren’t there yet.

                If small town Indiana is a particularly low cost of living area then maybe $4 is a fair tip. But where I am from, $4 doesn’t last five seconds anymore.

                If it takes them 20 minutes to bring you your pizza, then go back to the shop, then at best they are making $12 per hour minus the mileage and gas and other expenses they incur driving their own vehicle… it’s a real shit job that can only be made better by decent tippers, until such a time comes that tipping is abolished (I won’t hold my breath).

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                  34·
                  4 months ago

                  It doesn’t take them 20 minutes to bring me my pizza because, again, I’m not in a major metropolitan area. It takes less than 10. I can get half way across town in 20 minutes.

                  Christ.

                  • UmeU@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    22·
                    4 months ago

                    I’m sure you’re right, those pizza delivery millionaires have us all fooled, but not you my friend.

                    In all seriousness… if $12/hour after expenses is a livable wage in bumfuck Indiana then that is not representative of the rest of the US.