Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.

  • Chill Dude 69@lemmynsfw.comOP
    61·
    8 个月前

    helpful to me

    And here we have a problem. You’re doing a very good job of describing what YOU want. You want pornography. The kind you can find on danbooru.

    Are you a random girl who wants to post her tits and/or vag on /r/gonewild? Or are you a guy who wants to post his dong? Do they even allow random users to post their nudes on danbooru? Maybe they do, but not at all in the same format as /r/gonewild.

    I’m asserting that Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content, over on their platform, as an indirect consequence of becoming a public company. Nobody has control of that, other than the Reddit board, corporate officers, and shareholders. I’m using the “brace yourselves” meme to indicate that this will kick off a flood of users, fleeing to the Fediverse/Lemmy, because we are a direct replacement for Reddit.

    If you haven’t noticed that, I can only say that I am confused. That’s what the platform was made to be. It works exactly like Reddit, but with several logical improvements (you can edit post titles after you’ve made a post, embedding images in replies is somewhat easier, the system isn’t owned by a single monolithic authority that can destroy communities on a whim, etc).

    On the one hand, I am suggesting that the influx of new users can be a positive thing, to ensure the healthy growth of this platform. On the other hand, I am literally saying “brace yourselves,” because the wave of crazy shit is coming.

    But I’m seeing several people responding like you, with this confusing attitude of “UHH, BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT I NECESSARILY WANT.” Well, yeah, that’s part of why I said “BRACE YOURSELVES.” Ned Stark was saying “Winter is coming” as an ominous portent, not an advertisement.

    I mean, I actually happen to enjoy anonymous tits and pussy, but you do you.

    • ErnieBridges@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      8 个月前

      Relevance

      I discovered that this discussion is probably moot, based on looking at https://join-lemmy.org/instances and loading 6 of the first “Random” Lemmy servers and 6 of the “Most active” Lemmy servers:

      • The “Random” servers:
        • https://sub.wetshaving.social/ and https://leminal.space/ display “No pornography.” prominently on their main pages.
        • The “Code de conduite” of https://lemmy.tedomum.net/ (https://tedomum.net/documentation/general/cgu/) contains text that expresses they don’t want to host pornography (“Représentation du corps : contenu pornographique ou représentation choquante du corps sans avertissement préalable.”).
        • The locally featured “Instance policies - PLEASE READ” post on https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org (https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/1209) contains text that expresses they probably don’t want to host pornography (“The primary focus and scope of our instance is subjects relating to GameStop, household investors participating in US stock markets, direct registration, holding the financial industry/Wall Street accountable, and/or related economic and financial topics. Although we do not intend to censor discussion, and will not enforce around any stance or viewpoint within this scope, we may prevent or remove communities with an out-of-scope topic from hosting themselves on our Lemmy instance.”).
        • https://lemy.lol/ displayed “Limited porn” after I clicked on “Rules” on the main page.
        • The web page associated to the text “Our Instance rules are here” on https://reddthat.com (https://reddthat.com/post/9701) seems to express pornography is allowed, though “porn” is not currently discussed in any detail (“We are a NSFW enabled instance, which means there may be NSFW content in the Local and All categories if you leave NSFW enabled in your account.”).
      • The “Most active” servers:
        • https://lemmy.world/ does not seem to explicitly ban all pornography, though it doesn’t seem to be a large amount of its content based on a search for “porn”.
        • I expect https://lemmynsfw.com/ allows and encourages distributing pornography.
        • https://lemm.ee/ displays “No pornography” prominently on its main page.
        • https://lemmy.ml/ displays “No porn.” prominently on its main page.
        • https://feddit.de/ displays “Keine Pornografie / Adult Content” prominently on its main page.
        • https://hexbear.net/ does not seem to explicitly ban all pornography, though it doesn’t seem to be a large amount of its content based on a search for “porn”.

      Based on this survey, this discussion is only relevant on between 2/6 to 3/6 of all servers, and is not very relevant on more than 5/6 of all servers.

      Overall response

      I think you didn’t answer my question (“Why should I use Lemmy […] for consuming pornography”).

      The post title is “REMEMBER TO SPREAD THE WORD! THE PLATFORM THAT HAS THE PORN ALWAYS WINS!” and the post body is “Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.”. I am suggesting that you NOT “spread the word” or “Start telling people now” in regards to people who want to distribute pornography. I don’t think you addressed that suggestion, though I did not make it explicit in my original reply.

      Also, you may have been misled about the role of pornography in the popularity of standards or services. https://youtu.be/hWl9Wux7iVY?si=qgyQRKQmXf72ZK63&t=831 has more information about this topic.

      I don’t think it’s important to put any amount of energy into discussing this topic, since our expressions are unlikely to directly affect any policy on a large majority of Lemmy instances. I do appreciate your response though, since we can’t influence policy at all if we’re silent, and I don’t want to unnecessarily make it harder to contribute to making policies!

      Specific responses

      You’re doing a very good job of describing what YOU want.

      Thank you, I’m glad you think I managed to express myself well!

      My attention cannot be used as effectively to express other people’s desires as it can to express my own desires, so it’s probably best if we each express our personal desires and then consider each other’s comments in order to make decisions that will benefit us. The primary purpose of policy documentation should be to benefit someone, and preferably to benefit a large number of people.

      Are you a random girl who wants to post her tits and/or vag on /r/gonewild? Or are you a guy who wants to post his dong?

      No, I’m not. I don’t think we should use energy considering their desires; I think we should use more energy considering the ideas shared by people who are using Lemmy right now, as I doubt the people who currently do not use Lemmy will contribute resources to maintaining Lemmy servers in the next month, and communities surely benefit more from consistent support than from uncertain amounts of support, and I see that many servers are explicitly hostile to people who want to distribute pornography. If you want to consider the desires of people who don’t use Lemmy, making it easier for them to find relevant servers may be useful.

      Do they even allow random users to post their nudes on danbooru?

      The answer is probably no, but I also mentioned pornhub, and I see https://www.pornhub.com/albums which I think will be more effective to use to “allow random users to post their nudes” than Lemmy servers, as they are financially incentivized to host that content and pornhub probably has more competent management than the vast majority of Lemmy servers do (due to having a larger number of people managing it, if nothing else).

      I’m asserting that Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content […] That’s what the platform was made to be. […] On the one hand, I am suggesting that the influx of new users can be a positive thing, to ensure the healthy growth of this platform. […]

      I agree with the sentiments you expressed. I agree that more people will use Lemmy as time passes, and that the rate of change of people using Lemmy can be affected by Reddit Inc. I agree Lemmy is a suitable replacement for Reddit and is an improvement for me. More people using Lemmy would probably be good for me. I also agree that having a large increase in the number of people using Lemmy will likely cause more discomfort in the short term due to new users’ lack of familiarity with existing culture.

      If you haven’t noticed [that [Reddit will shortly ban and/or heavily restrict explicit user content] will kick off a flood of users], I can only say that I am confused.

      I did notice that because you expressed it with the image attached to your post. You also gave me instructions by using the words “REMEMBER” and “Start”, and I’m expressing that I don’t want to follow those instructions and I’m urging other people to also not follow those instructions.

      brace yourselves

      I probably won’t have to, because the server I use clearly has a rule that pornography isn’t allowed, so I probably won’t have to deal with people posting pornography anytime soon.

      I mean, I actually happen to enjoy anonymous tits and pussy, but you do you.

      I prefer my pornography to have documentation about how it was sourced. That way it’s easier to find it if I want to see it again.