Rabbis aren’t popes. They don’t get to decide what is or is not offensive to Jews in general. Sure, very religious Jews might have a problem with it. And I could not care less what they think. Especially when they’re the minority in the U.S.
62% of self-described American Jews say being Jewish is mainly a matter of ancestry and culture, while just 15% say it is mainly a matter of religion. Even among Jews by religion, 55% say being Jewish is mainly a matter of ancestry and culture, while 66% say it is not necessary to believe in God to be Jewish.[3]
Do you honestly think most Jews would have a big problem with my wife saying a blessing over the menorah when most of them don’t even think you have to believe in a god? I guarantee you more Jews were offended by Bradley Cooper playing Leonard Bernstein with a prosthetic nose than they would be over a non-Jew saying a Hebrew prayer.
Rabbi’s aren’t Pope’s and they’re born to argue so when the vast majority of them clearly state that a non Jew saying Jewish prayers is contrary to the principles of the religion then I’m going to accept that as a religious decree.
So yea your non jewish wife saying the bracha is a problem. You’re welcome to practice as you see fit, no one’s going to pull your Jew card over it but that doesn’t make it halacha/Kosher/ cool or any other version of acceptable.
Why do the people who devote their lives to studying the scriptures of the religion get to be the ones who decide what’s acceptable within the religion and what’s not?
Because they’re literally the subject matter experts. It’s also pretty damn clear in the tanach too. In order to perform the mitzvah you need to be Jewish.
I’m not offended by how you choose to practice your religion, I’m pointing out that what you’re doing is absolutely cultural appropriation and off sides with the understood practice of the religion as a whole. You’re the one who seems to be offended by being called out on this, and that’s for you to come to grips with not me.
There’s like 3 dozen angles to why your shiksa wife and kids shouldn’t be saying brachot. It’s more of a fact based gish gallop than moving the goal posts.
And yes Rabbi’s as the stewards of Judaism get to make the call what’s authentically Jewish and what’s not. That you’re unaware of these basic tenets of your culture and heritage is pretty fucking weird.
As I said above, you’re welcome to keep larp’ing as a Jewish family but you’re just lying to yourself and others. You seem to be really offended by this fact, maybe seeking counsel from a rabbi would help you with your conflicted emotions.
That you think that’s a bigoted term just reinforces your complete lack of understanding of your culture and the language that is at the root of it. Your wife and children are Gentiles, you’re pretending they’re Jewish. Shiksa is 100% the appropriate term, even if your parents used it derogatorily in your household.
Even if I’m insulting them with a bigoted term, based on this conversation it’s fucking deserved LoL. People larp’ing as another religion as the lowest of the low.
Rabbis aren’t popes. They don’t get to decide what is or is not offensive to Jews in general. Sure, very religious Jews might have a problem with it. And I could not care less what they think. Especially when they’re the minority in the U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
Do you honestly think most Jews would have a big problem with my wife saying a blessing over the menorah when most of them don’t even think you have to believe in a god? I guarantee you more Jews were offended by Bradley Cooper playing Leonard Bernstein with a prosthetic nose than they would be over a non-Jew saying a Hebrew prayer.
Rabbi’s aren’t Pope’s and they’re born to argue so when the vast majority of them clearly state that a non Jew saying Jewish prayers is contrary to the principles of the religion then I’m going to accept that as a religious decree.
So yea your non jewish wife saying the bracha is a problem. You’re welcome to practice as you see fit, no one’s going to pull your Jew card over it but that doesn’t make it halacha/Kosher/ cool or any other version of acceptable.
Why do Rabbis get to declare what is cultural appropriation when only 15% of American Jews say Judaism is about religion?
It sounds like you are offended by it. I would love some evidence that the general Jewish population agrees with you.
Why do the people who devote their lives to studying the scriptures of the religion get to be the ones who decide what’s acceptable within the religion and what’s not?
Because they’re literally the subject matter experts. It’s also pretty damn clear in the tanach too. In order to perform the mitzvah you need to be Jewish.
I’m not offended by how you choose to practice your religion, I’m pointing out that what you’re doing is absolutely cultural appropriation and off sides with the understood practice of the religion as a whole. You’re the one who seems to be offended by being called out on this, and that’s for you to come to grips with not me.
I like how you keep ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Jews clearly don’t give a shit about what Rabbis think.
Basically you’re saying that Rabbis get to decide what Jews consider to be cultural appropriation and Jews as a whole do not.
Which is nonsense.
There’s like 3 dozen angles to why your shiksa wife and kids shouldn’t be saying brachot. It’s more of a fact based gish gallop than moving the goal posts.
And yes Rabbi’s as the stewards of Judaism get to make the call what’s authentically Jewish and what’s not. That you’re unaware of these basic tenets of your culture and heritage is pretty fucking weird.
As I said above, you’re welcome to keep larp’ing as a Jewish family but you’re just lying to yourself and others. You seem to be really offended by this fact, maybe seeking counsel from a rabbi would help you with your conflicted emotions.
Wow. Didn’t take long for your bigotry to come out, did it?
That you think that’s a bigoted term just reinforces your complete lack of understanding of your culture and the language that is at the root of it. Your wife and children are Gentiles, you’re pretending they’re Jewish. Shiksa is 100% the appropriate term, even if your parents used it derogatorily in your household.
Even if I’m insulting them with a bigoted term, based on this conversation it’s fucking deserved LoL. People larp’ing as another religion as the lowest of the low.
I’m not pretending they’re Jewish, that’s a lie. I specifically said the opposite. And ‘shiksa’ is a bigoted word. You are a bigot and a liar.