• AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Windows isn’t ready for daily driving imo, it’s risky to use such an unstable OS for high importance tasks.

    It’s fine if you want to tinker and experiment with a different OS, but for day to day usage I think you should really be using something more stable.

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    7 hours ago

    IDK why anyone has automatic updates enabled, precisely because of this ocurring at frustrating times. Can this not be disabeled anymore or something?

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      The user-facing options only allow you to delay updates for up to a month. There is no way to permanently disable automatic updates from there. If you are a power user, there are ways that use things like group policy, registry keys, etc. But you may not have access to those if you are on a work or school computer, as that is managed by your IT team.

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        Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable.

        In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable “⏩ Get me up to date” then set your “Active hours” to “Manually” then set an 18 hour block that doesn’t conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you’ll only get updates applied when you deliberately reboot or leave your machine on overnight.

        Edit: if you’re really keen, you can use a tool like O&O ShutUp10 (it works on 11, too), or edit the registry to completely disable auto updates.

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          no. you can’t.

          it’s set in policy on enterprise installs and you have to reghack to get it to stop.

          that’s not it working, that’s a hack.

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            What a strange response. You’ve said that deferring updates can’t be done on Windows. It’s plain factually incorrect. You’re literally quoting that policy can control it but saying it can’t be controlled, but you see no contradiction. Real enterprise uses WSUS, which absolutely can defer updates, it’s one of the main selling points.

            Not everyone uses that, and group policy is sufficient for plenty of orgs. The link in my earlier comment clearly explains how policy and registry settings can avoid OP’s problem, so “no you can’t” alone, is a ridiculous and incorrect response. That there exist cases where enterprise makes it more difficult does not mean that it is not possible. It’s arguably easier with enterprise because IT can push those settings out to everyone and make sure no one has those interruptions.

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          I have a laptop and a PC with the same settings. The laptop forces updates, the PC doesn’t and I have no idea why.

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            Your IT dept. has to be pretty shit if they’re controlling those policies but not setting basic work hours. Turning off that restart asap crap is the norm, because management/c-suite get pissed off by random restarts and immediately blame IT.

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              4 hours ago

              wow, spoken like someone who is clueless about how enterprise solutions work.

              I thought you might just be inexperienced, but now I can see you’re just an armchair idiot.

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      And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed and their presentation completed and saved, presumably because they don’t know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to get out of that situation unscathed, but not most.

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    9 hours ago

    “YOUR COMPUTER FAILED TO START AFTER A RECENT UPDATE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLORE RECOVERY OPTIONS?”

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    This is why anything I need to do serious work on does not get Windows installed on it. Even OSX doesn’t pull this.

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      Sometimes it’s simply about being taken seriously.

      I’m a very busy person without a lot of time to play video games. If I sit down to play (and on Linux!), I’m absolutely not willing to spend extra time waiting on OS updates. It’s great that I can configure my system to respect my time and never interrupt me if that’s what I wish on a device solely used for electronic card games.

      It does exactly what I tell it to do, and that’s great.

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    Simple rules of thumb:

    Never use windows for presentations.

    Never use powerpoint for presentations.

    Never use your own profile for presentations.

    Always have a synced version to a URL that you can refer the audience to if the projector fails or doesnt like your computer.

    But yeah, that sucks.

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      A friend who did a lot of presentations said: always have backups for everything.

      • spare laptop
      • duplicates of all kinds of connectors & cables
      • projector and external speakers (if all in-person audience)
      • know of any other available rooms nearby
      • copies of presentation on USB and online
      • etc.

      I went on a business trip with him once, and we all carried 2 bags each of equipment. Last I heard, he ended up working for a large entertainment company in LA.

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    I remember during the last big win11 update i defined active hours which was recommended by Microsoft to do so it only updates outside of work hours.

    Only for it to get reset without notification so all workstations started updating in the middle of work when left idle

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    Yeah, rule of thumb: you need your Windows PC to be available 100% at a close future point? update it now, reboot, and then disable networking if possible.

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      Also pause updates, it doesn’t stop all updates but it does avoid most of the forced reboot Micro$lop dishes out for weeks at a time. Disabling networking is ideal, no doubt, including the telemetry spam.

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      You have to ignore the updates for a while before it will force reboot during your normal working hours.

      If it’s left alone overnight yeah it might reboot on you the day the patch came out. But if your active hours are set to something same it’s never rebooted on me.

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        Yeah enterprise images are set to default as 8am active time. If someone leaves their machine on they’ll switch to an inactive state at like 8pm or whatever you configured, and do the updates at like 2am and you should never need to know anything about it if something doesn’t break.

        Not every setup is done well though, ive have several coworkers and I have Mac OS and Windows images want to force a reboot during work hours, 99% of the time it is either the user never allows the machine to be on when it isn’t in use, or IT dropped the ball on the image.