Hwy. How dare you blame systems. Only proximal causes can be addressed!

Who didnt reverse mortgage it to pay for extravagant vacations.

Its legal because value comes from ownership, not from doing things.

And if that sounds insane; you’re a fucking commie.

Right? You don’t need to exist long term. Fuck off and die, meat.

Sorry, all the people who could tell the difference between mandarin and vietnamese were fired.

Youll figure it out, im sure. Or you wont, and ice will have a great excuse yo take you, because you fucked uo on your paperwork (or so grok says; all the people who could read mandarin were fired for being woke, because they coukd read mandarin)

Edit: do you really refuse? Dont say it here, but arm and organize your community. Have an anti-drone and anti-helicopter strategy. Change the internal layouts of your buildings where possible. Drop all non-pirated consumer software. Or become a ghost. Otherwise you arent refusing shit.

Im saying the nazi shit heads who determine what a ‘citizen’ is don’t mean the same thing you do when you say that word.

Your blind obedience to a toxic system has let nazis own you by couping that system.

Well, reality kept happening, but we arejt super involved. We font perceive it, and certainly don’t act on it directly as ourselves.

‘Eddington’ or the entire earth situation and politics of ‘echopraxia’ and fun guidelines. ‘The matrix’ if you want something easier to grasp and less dystopian.

So its technically illegal to rape people, but every friend ive had whos been fucking retarded enough to report one to the police has regretted it. Institutions just do it. Its socially acceptable. Like, how many of the people on the ballot last year weren’t rapists, of at least adults? It’s practically a cultural value.

The criminal penalties for killing someone with an axe and killing someone with a car are not the same. Often, even if it’s premeditated, you won’t do serious time, especially if you kill a ‘nuisance’ like a protestor or extremely marginalized person.

i know the system works

It provably does not. I thought we agreed that it does not

because it used to

It didn’t. That was colonial extraction, internal exploitation of women+poc, and compromising with communism while we still had a labor movememt and the threat of the ussr. It was an intermediate form forced on it by circumstance, it’s not sustainable, youre ignoring all the costs, and the system’s own incentives are what destroyed it. What will always destroy it. The metagame is broken, there is no going back.

And with global warming/climatepocalypse; we need to be doing better than that imagined bullshit rough-edges-sanded-off version of the 1950s anyway. which we can; why are you so hostile to the idea? Why are you so in love with your chains?

We could and should do do much better. We could distribute things and coordinate in muvh better ways. This shit collapses every few Years, why not give it a shot?

On paper, yeah, but it’s not treated like it by anyone in power. The consewuences aren’t the same, social and otherwise.

But the whole system is shit. Its designed to fuck you without your consent.

These things are not failures. They’re working as intended, and without a gun to its head, its always gonna do that shit.

This is capitalism. This is the only path capitalism aants to do.

We don’t need to ‘fix inflation’; we need to abolish money and put in place a system of managing our economy that isnt entirely based around reveling in vice and insane cult bullshit.

You act like a shitty unjust system of exploitation can ever be made just.

Like the abstractions youve been trained to hold dear are ‘real’ and not abstractions so many fucking degrees out. ‘Money’ and ‘inflation’ are fake. We made them the fuck up. Outside of systems designed to value them theyre entirely nonsense.

Yes we’re being robbed, thats the nature of labor when ownership is valued above it! When accumulation and centralization is the fundamental incentive! The very system was designed to lie and exploit, yes, of course its doing that. Why do you tjink the fuckers lying to you and exploiting you love it so much?

You act like you can fix a bisection with a band-aid. Like you can fix something so thoroughly broken without fundamental systemic change.

Like, metaphor time: combustion engines are bad, but switching to electric cars powered by coal power plants isn’t really better. You get that right? We need trains, ideally powered by overhead wire renewables, so we arent hauling 2-10 tons of vehicle around for every hundred pounds of human. And maybe more local production of heavy shit.

Like, you sre right. There is injustice. And im not, like, a fan of tjose things, but i think the system is much more fucked than you think it is.

Life goals.

Every single character in that movie is a piece of shit. That one’s a vainglorious piece of shit.

capitalism in the 50s

Weird, because in china they call what we had in the 50s communism (it’s what they’re doing now). They’re not more or less correct than you are.

Tgough i should note thatvwhat youre saying is true for white men.

inflation is the problem!

The concept of ownership being valued over labor snd basing our economy on a nonsense points system we equate with virtue is a bigger problem

Its not about the money directly, it’s about the alienation from things like labor and value, plus absolutely insane shit people need to believe to feel okay in it.

I know it’s cliche, but i think capitalism deserves a lot of the blame.

In a very real sense we do li:e in a fantasy world, where the pervasive oppositional disingenuous bullshit and disinformation have poisoned us, and we trust the shit we made up to process stuff as high level abstractions without necessarily tying them back to anything remotely near bare-metal material reality.

And tyen when people find exploits in tjose abstractions, there is no recourse, nothing to check them against.

Reality is happening, but we do not comprehend it.

Edit: if you want fiction about this, the book ‘echopraxia’ has this running through it, or the film ‘eddington’ which is entirely about this.

Sort of. We won’t all die at once.

Does using the computer just turn people into this?