https://pastebin.com/5ENcTSw4

I have legit lost sleep over the first quote from “they thought they were free” listed here:

https://www.facinghistory.org/sites/default/files/2023-04/Reading_Do_You_Take_the_Oath.pdf

Did you know about this before searching it out? Their other activities?

How many articles did it get in major papers approx? How many days reporting?

How many times have your heard about them painting private jets in the news?

NOBODY SPRAYPAINTED STONEHENGE

they threw corn starch on it. Corn starch.

actually loads of people do spraypaint stone henge, but JSO didn’t.

You are literally spreading propaganda against climate protest.

Why? Do you want to discouraged protest? Do you want to distract from the environmental vandalism of oil companies? Do you want to empower governments to pass anti protest measures?

What is your goal here? If you are trying to recruit for an eco terrorist cell surely you’d do better psyching people up rather than ridiculing some of the most risk-comfortable protesters.

edit: You know I’m actually not done. They haven’t destroyed any paintings, they threw soup on glass. Unlike the fossil fuel industry which has destroyed like entire fucking species, in unknowable numbers.

Also you want to whinge about a blocked road but want people to destroy pipelines? what do you think happens when petrol stations can’t get fuel? Sure seems like that’ll stop even more people getting to work on time.

Could you uncritically absorb oil company astroturfing and pro status quo media bullshit a little less eagerly?

relevant usa civil rights quote applies:

First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

Your armchair iamvertsmart take is counterproductive.

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. It’s almost into not even wrong territory. I think you should contact a philosophy department and ask them why they haven’t considered this.

Eh, mostly I’m just pointing out how stupid this is to anyone with half a brain in their head.

We have animal rights legislation and morals for reasons, and nobody who like protests whaling gets criticised for not growing fake whale meat. You might disagree on where the line should be but it’s just outing yourself as someone with underdeveloped theory of mind if you don’t understand why people might feel strongly about it being further down the tree of life.

I consider myself a flexitarian, I adopt puppies, give them a good life till they’re about 2 years old, then humanely slaughter them and eat them. The stuff I don’t eat I backfeed to the next round of puppies.

I am so with this post, what I do is so much more sustainable and humane than anything that happens on a farm. Extremists harrassing me should fund lab grown meat instead. Really this is more ethical than eating beans because of crop deaths.

a plant based diet is completely healthy as long as you eat varied foods and don’t try something stupid like subsisting on apples and dandelions.

There are world renowned athletes who are plant based…

Italian nationalism around food had fascit roots. It’s fictional and stupid. Grow up.

whimper was a dovecot and postfix machine. Email isn’t very fun

I don’t have many now, just minstrel (it plays music) but previously they’ve always just be sounds. Rawr, groan, whimper, bark, moan, growl etc.

Except minstrel (it plays music) :p

I don’t think you’re evil. I think that like almost all vegans you were raised to be complicit in an evil system. You were fed propaganda, discouraged from questioning norms, had behaviours reenforced as wholesome and good from before you were even a conscious person.

I think you’re wrong, I think what you do is deeply harmful, I don’t have any respect for hiding from the truth, refusing to engage, and bad faith replies but I don’t think you’re evil.

Was every man who denied women votes evil? everyone involved in every war of aggression? every slaver that ever was? every bureaucrat of empire? They were wrong, selfish, engaged in motivate reasoning, and harmful. Some were probably evil, most were probably a little lazy or a little stupid. Unfortunately that’s all atrocity takes.

Yeah, just like other kinds of animal abuse. I can’t stand anyone who speaks out against puppy mill, dog fighting, killing race horses, elephants in circuses, bear bile farming, the fur trade, poaching etc.

Like get a fucking life, they’re just there to be used. If you want to be some goody two shoes and give a shit about orangutans or whatever fine, be a stupid Puritan but don’t you dare try and stop me from setting up monkey knife fights.

Edit: wtf? aren’t we in agreement? You can’t criticise what someone does for pleasure or a living with animals. No ethical consumption anyway. Why the hell is my circus worse than your steakhouse? we’re both doing it for entertainment.

Took me a bit but when you see it it’s pretty hilarious.You gotta unfocus your eyes a bit and sorta fuzz the image, idk if that makes sense.

Back in 2014 my graduating physics class was split down the middle between dudebros who wanted to be him and people who thought he was a con artist due to the utterly ridiculous physics statements that he’d make.

So basically this decal identifies the owner as the sort of silly person who thinks settling other planets isn’t the punchline of a joke.

Nice argument there, but you see you typed something wrong at 2 am therefore I will not engage.

I am so smart and cultured.

He’s a multi millionaire who admits to still eating red meat despite having the funds to hire a professional chef to make delicious plant based meals every meal. He also admits to eating chickens while decrying it.

Fuck me for holding people with more power to higher standards I guess.

He’s also intensely classist and has deeply problematic views about overpopulation. Doing the very British thing of talking about too many African people while completely ignoring the massively asymmetric resource consumption that he takes part it.

I just think if you’re one of the most privileged people on the planet and you think the world is dying you ought to live a life which if the average person lived would be sustainable. Not do some token effort, far below that of your average poor person, and claim that’s all you can manage.

they hated the rat because she made them think critically about social responsibility.