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  • Putting something on GitHub is really inconsequential if you’re making your project open source since anyone can use it for anything anyway,

    Except for people in China (blocked in China) or people on ipv6 only networks, since Github hasn’t bothered to support ipv6, cutting out those in countries where ipv4 addresses are scarce.

    So yes, it does matter. Both gitlab and codeberg, the two big alternatives, both support ipv6 (idk about them being blocked in china). They also support github logins, so you dob’t even need to make an account.

    And it’s not a black or white. Software freedom is a spectrum, not a binary. We should strive to use more open source, decentralized software, while recognizing that many parts are going to be out of our immediate control, like the backbone of the internet or little pieces like proprietary firmware.



  • sn1per is not open source, according to the OSI’s definition

    The license for sn1per can be found here: https://github.com/1N3/Sn1per/blob/master/LICENSE.md

    It’s more a EULA than an actual license. It prohibits a lot of stuff, and is basically source-available.

    You agree not to create any product or service from any par of the Code from this Project, paid or free

    There is also:

    Sn1perSecurity LLC reserves the right to change the licensing terms at any time, without advance notice. Sn1perSecurity LLC reserves the right to terminate your license at any time.

    So yeah. I decided to test it out anyways… but what I see… is not promising.

    FROM docker.io/blackarchlinux/blackarch:latest
    
    # Upgrade system
    RUN pacman -Syu --noconfirm
    
    # Install sn1per from official repository
    RUN pacman -Sy sn1per --noconfirm
    
    CMD ["sn1per"]
    

    The two pacman commands are redundant. You only need to run pacman -Syu sn1per --noconfirm once. This also goes against docker best practice, as it creates two layers where only one would be necessary. In addition to that, best practice also includes deleting cache files, which isn’t done here. The final docker image is probably significantly larger than it needs to be.

    Their kali image has similar issues:

    RUN set -x \
            && apt -yqq update \
            && apt -yqq full-upgrade \
            && apt clean
    RUN apt install --yes metasploit-framework
    

    https://www.docker.com/blog/intro-guide-to-dockerfile-best-practices/

    It’s still building right now. I might edit this post with more info if it’s worth it. I really just want a command-line vulnerability scanner, and sn1per seems to offer that with greenbone/openvas as a backend.

    I could modify the dockerfiles with something better, but I don’t know if I’m legally allowed to do so outside of their repo, and I don’t feel comfortable contributing to a repo that’s not FOSS.










  • LXD/Incus. It’s truly free/open

    Please stop saying this about lxd. You know it isn’t true, ever since they started requiring a CLA.

    LXD is literally less free than proxmox, looking at those terms, since Canonical isn’t required to open source any custom lxd versions they host.

    Also, I’ve literally brought this up to you before, and you acknowledged it. But you continue to spread this despite the fact that you should know better.

    Anyway, Incus currently isn’t packaged in debian bookworm, only trixie.

    The version of lxd debian packages is before the license change so that’s still free. But for people on other distros, it’s better to clarify that incus is the truly FOSS option.


  • Dockers manipulation of nftables is pretty well defined in their documentation

    Documentation people don’t read. People expect, that, like most other services, docker binds to ports/addresses behind the firewall. Literally no other container runtime/engine does this, including, notably, podman.

    As to the usage of the docker socket that is widely advised against unless you really know what you’re doing.

    Too bad people don’t read that advice. They just deploy the webtop docker compose, without understanding what any of it is. I like (hate?) linuxserver’s webtop, because it’s an example of the two of the worst footguns in docker in one

    To include the rest of my comment that I linked to:

    Do any of those poor saps on zoomeye expect that I can pwn them by literally opening a webpage?

    No. They expect their firewall to protect them by not allowing remote traffic to those ports. You can argue semantics all you want, but not informing people of this gives them another footgun to shoot themselves with. Hence, docker “bypasses” the firewall.

    On the other hand, podman respects your firewall rules. Yes, you have to edit the rules yourself. But that’s better than a footgun. The literal point of a firewall is to ensure that any services you accidentally have running aren’t exposed to the internet, and docker throws that out the window.

    You originally stated:

    I think from the dev’s point of view (not that it is right or wrong), this is intended behavior simply because if docker didn’t do this, they would get 1,000 issues opened per day of people saying containers don’t work when they forgot to add a firewall rules for a new container.

    And I’m trying to say that even if that was true, it would still be better than a footgun where people expose stuff that’s not supposed to be exposed.

    But that isn’t the case for podman. A quick look through the github issues for podman, and I don’t see it inundated with newbies asking “how to expose services?” because they assume the firewall port needs to be opened, probably. Instead, there are bug reports in the opposite direction, like this one, where services are being exposed despite the firewall being up.

    (I don’t have anything against you, I just really hate the way docker does things.)



  • Yes it is a security risk, but if you don’t have all ports forwarded, someone would still have to breach your internal network IIRC, so you would have many many more problems than docker.

    I think from the dev’s point of view (not that it is right or wrong), this is intended behavior simply because if docker didn’t do this, they would get 1,000 issues opened per day of people saying containers don’t work when they forgot to add a firewall rules for a new container.

    My problem with this, is that when running a public facing server, this ends up with people exposing containers that really, really shouldn’t be exposed.

    Excerpt from another comment of mine:

    It’s only docker where you have to deal with something like this:

    ---
    services:
      webtop:
        image: lscr.io/linuxserver/webtop:latest
        container_name: webtop
        security_opt:
          - seccomp:unconfined #optional
        environment:
          - PUID=1000
          - PGID=1000
          - TZ=Etc/UTC
          - SUBFOLDER=/ #optional
          - TITLE=Webtop #optional
        volumes:
          - /path/to/data:/config
          - /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock #optional
        ports:
          - 3000:3000
          - 3001:3001
        restart: unless-stopped
    

    Originally from here, edited for brevity.

    Resulting in exposed services. Feel free to look at shodan or zoomeye, internet connected search engines, for exposed versions of this service. This service is highly dangerous to expose, as it gives people an in to your system via the docker socket.



  • I recently noticed that it’s now integrated into Canvas, a FOSS online learning management software which my college (and my high school, and my middle school) have used.

    To bad no one bothers with it, forcing everyone to use zoom instead. Which sucks, because the first day of online classes, zoom permissions weren’t set up properly, meaning no one could join the meeting. Probably wouldn’t have happened with BigBlueButton.