Tekchip

I suppose we should just start throwing people “likely” to do crimes in prison preemptively!? That’s not how anything else works. Why would it work like that here?

Most of the back and forth is predicated on the idea that the digital world works the same as the digital one. It does not!

In the physical world you cannot produce and exact copy of something for zero dollars.

In the digital world you can make many copies at effectively zero cost.

Stealing, theft, is predicated on taking something from someone so they no longer have it.

Making a digital copy does not steal or remove access.

The whole argument, which I would posit is deeply flawed, is that pirating removes imaginary potential profits for reselling the thing copied (not stolen). If that’s so then prove it. Prove that at some point in the future I, or any other given person, would have bought that digital thing. Unless you’ve invented time travel you just can’t.

Copying digital content isn’t theft and pirating isn’t the right thing to call it.

We have to figure out how to better frame or address the digital world that just fundamentally doesn’t operate the same as the physical one.

I get the joke.

But related real talk phones get got a lot. They won’t need to steal your phone they’ll just hack it like every other computer on the planet.

You don’t have to look much for the evidence.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/ileakage-flaw-can-prompt-apples-safari-to-expose-passwords-sensitive-data

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/samsung-galaxy-s23-hacked-twice-on-first-day-of-pwn2own-toronto/amp/

Mainframes and old databases? It was 98/99 not 88/89. I spent all my time updating Netscape navigator, Windows and Java in my IT job for a fortune 500. I’m sure someone was still running crazy old stuff, someone always is, but it was solidly the age of the internet by then. I had a cable modem by that time.

Oh yeah, you nailed it. Clearly worked for the OP… I also didn’t put a value on said opportunity cost. Perhaps it’s greater than $250 depending on the individual. Subjective as opportunity cost can sometimes be. Not trying to ascertain or consider it is at best just short sighted, or perhaps at worst ignorant. Cheap junk, effectively rented according to the EULA, subject to the whims of the rights holders, is never the way.

Best Buy does this all for you for $80, assuming the person is in the US. I expect this is available most places for similar prices though. You can get anything from a BT only unit for $20 online to a much nicer unit with Android Auto/iOS’s thing. While the initial cost might be higher the opportunity cost of your thing being disabled is almost certainly much higher, as this thread’s existence seems to support. $150-$200 well worth it in the long run to do a head unit upgrade.

As monstrous as it is yyyy-mm-dd could also be misconstrued by said unfortunate Americans as yyyy-dd-mm because…well…yeah. As noted elsewhere this dd mmm yyyy format also works nicely in written and verbal communication as 12th of august where no one ever is going to write or speak to each other twenty twenty three august twelfth. So again, more universal and less ambiguous.

As monsterous as it is yyyy-mm-dd could also be misconstrued by said unfortunate Americans as yyyy-dd-mm because…well…yeah. As noted elsewhere this dd mmm yyyy format also works nicely in written and verbal communication as 12th of august where no one ever is going to write or speak to each other twenty twenty three august twelfth. So again, more universal and less ambiguous.

Lot of talk of numerics only. The problem there is knowing what format the information is in since clearly there are 3 possibilities. Without context and during certain parts of the month you’re hosed. Best to remove ambiguity and go with the alpha numeric format.

DD MMM YY (or alternatively YYYY)

11 Aug 2023

Ambiguity gone.