Thanks for the breakdown! This is probably the most helpful breakdown I’ve seen of a build like this.

Yea I do, you brought up that local isn’t always the option.

I desperately want it to work for me, i just can’t get it to work without spending thousands of dollars on hardware just to get back to the same experience as having a regular desktop at my desk.

What is the cost of the thin clients and are you doing this over copper?

Are your desks multi monitor? To get the bare minimum in my households scenario I would need at least 12 streams at greater than 1080p

For 5 seats how much did it cost versus just having a computer in each location? For example looking at hdbaset to replace just my desk setup, I would need 4 ~$350 devices, just looking at monoprice for an idea (https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=21669) which doesn’t even cover all of the screens in my office.

Right, but who has the resources to rent compute with multiple GPUs, this is a gaming setup, not office work, and the op was talking about racking it.

All of those services offer an inferior experience to being at the hardware, it’s just not the same experience. Seriously, try it with multiple 1440p 144hz displays, it just doesn’t happen work out well, you are getting a compromised product for a higher cost. You need a good GPU (or at least a way to decode multiple hvec streams) in in the client, and so, you can run a standard thin client.

‘low latency’ is a near native experience, I’m talking, you sit down at your desk and it feels like you are at your computer(as to say, multiple monitors, hdr, USB swapping, Bluetooth, audio, etc, all working seamlessly without noticeably diminished quality), anything less isn’t worth it, since you can just, use your computer like normal.

A display port to fiber extender is $2,000. The fiber is not for the network.

Moonlight does not do what I want, moonlight requires a GPU on the thin client to decode. You would need a high end GPU to decide multiple high resolution video streams. Also afaik, moonlight doesn’t support multiple displays.

Can this solution deliver 3+ streams of high resolution (1440p or higher and 144fps) low latency video with no artifacting and near native performance and responsiveness?

Gaming has a high requirement for high fidelity and low latency I/O, no one wants to spend all this money on racks and thin clients, the then get laggy windows and scrolling, artifacts, video compression, and low resolution.

That’s the problem at hand with a gaming server, if you want to replace a gaming desktop with a vm in a rack, you need to actually get the I/O to the user somehow, either through dedicated cables from the rack, fiber, or networking, the first is impractical, it involves potentially 100ft long runs of multiple display port, HDMI, USB, etc, and is very rigid in its application, the second is very expensive, shooting the price up to thousands of dollars per seat for display port/USB over fiber extenders, and the third option I have yet to see a vnc/remote solution that can deliver near native video performance.

I should reiterate, the op wants to do fidelity sensitive tasks, like video editing, they don’t just need to work on a spreadsheet.

None of the presented solutions cover the aspect of being in a different place than the rack, the same network is fine, but at a minimum a different room.

How do you deliver high resolution (e.g. 1440p, 144 fps) to multiple monitors with low latency over a network? I haven’t seen anything like that accomplished without running fiber from the host.

Eventually, your thin client will need too much power anyway, making the costs rise a lot. It makes sense in an office where you have 500 seats and you can load balance resources.

If someone can show me a multi seat gaming server that has native remote performance (as in you drag windows around in 144 fps, not the standard artifacty high latency behavior of vnc) I’ll eat a shoe.

I think the vast majority of people are more interested in talking to people they know in real life.

You go to new York and just immediately get bombarded with pizza, when you get off the plane they put a pizza around your neck.

Well, it would be faster if I didn’t need to drive 4 hours for a 7/11, but I get ya.

The game explores the idea of choice and structure in modern video game narratives.

It’s presented to you in such a way that you feel like you can’t break away from the established narrative, everything you do has actually been planned and accounted for, and even intended by the developer.

The parents are likely retired with a good pension and little debt, and so can support the kid indefinitely

I’m inclined to agree, but it’s really just semantic differences. If they really wanted to, they could just release a new major version upgrade every year, tie the license to that version, and still get an effective annual subscription.

Imagine thinking you are superior because you said the word tea, as if tea isn’t a famously high profile drink in the United States.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_tea

Seriously as an American, I don’t know a single person who doesn’t drink some type of tea.

Y’all can keep downvoting, but iced tea and sweet tea are both hugely important cultural drinks in the United States, so implying that Americans haven’t heard of tea is just wrong.

Why are you shouting?

It may be helpful for you to take a break from social media for a bit. This is clearly unhealthy for you.

Lost a lot of money on Star citizen eh?

How do you define novel? Because LLMs absolutely have produced novel data.

Genuine question, since the code itself doesn’t infringe on IP (I think) wouldn’t the user executing the code be responsible for accepting the tos, not the repo.

The repo is just static non-compiled text files, it afaik isn’t actually communicating with their servers and therefore wouldn’t be able to accept any tos (implied or otherwise) (I don’t know if there are any actions, ci/cd pipelines, or deployments that would be in violation though)

Lemmy has 50 thousand users and hosts mostly text and static images. YouTube has 2.7 billion users and hosts mostly high quality video. Pretending it’s even remotely the same is pointless.

Inspection buy offs are an industry term related to getting an inspectors approval on work accomplished, sorry I shouldn’t have used it since it doesn’t really translate.

So Alaska required more inspector intervention than other airlines I worked on.

We use the term ‘selling’ and ‘buying’ to refer to presenting the work and demonstrating that it is airworthy (before we go to lunch, let’s try to sell this to inspection, or, I won’t buy that until you verify that it is torqued properly)

Think of it like you saying you cleaned your room, and your parents going ‘i don’t buy that’.

It has nothing to do with money.