Appreciate the live demo of exactly what I was talking about.

Instead of engaging with the argument, you go straight to branding me a racist. This is why the far-right keeps gaining ground - not because people agree with them, but because they’re sick of being shouted down any time they try to talk about real issues. Apparently things still aren’t bad enough for that lesson to sink in.

EDIT: Ironically this just in: Sweden set to rent cells in Estonian jails as it runs out of room for its prisoners

Sweden is not set up to cope with a rise in the numbers being sentenced to jail time as the government grapples with an unprecedented wave of violence brought about by gang crime.

Massive amounts of refugees and immigrants since 2015, failure to integrate, gang violence, shootings and bombings among the highest per capita in Europe, and the rise of the right-wing nationalist Sweden Democrats.

Sweden basically became the cautionary tale among the Nordic countries of how not to handle mass immigration.

Edit: Sweden set to rent cells in Estonian jails as it runs out of room for its prisoners

What he says might be unpopular on this platform, but I don’t see the racism in it. Integrating large numbers of people from a completely different culture into your society is extremely difficult – if not outright impossible. Exhibit A: Sweden.

This is one of those things where dismissing people who are worried about this stuff as racists or xenophobes just alienates them – and pushes them to vote for the actual racists and xenophobes instead. That’s how you end up where the US is today.

According to OP this is not AI generated.

“Please provide proof of authenticity before I allow myself to enjoy this picture.”

I don’t get the ideological hate for gen-AI - especially when it comes to visual art. All I care about is whether I enjoy looking at it or not. I couldn’t care less who or what made it.

Moderates: Crypto Mommy

Every time I see this meme format I come to the comments specifically looking to see who gets angry about it this time.

There’s a genuine risk that if Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, they might actually use it against Israel - they’ve more or less said as much. From a purely strategic standpoint, it makes more sense to act before they get there than to wait and deal with the consequences after. I think the U.S.’s role here would be to take out the underground facilities using their bunker-buster bombs, which Israel doesn’t have.

One pretends to believe what the book says for as long as it’s convenient for them and the other actually believes it and is willing to die for it.

And for that, you shall be downvoted to oblivion. Don’t you ever admit talking to an LLM again.

I’m not on any other social media, so I can’t comment on that. I’m sure it existed on Reddit as well, but the user base there was more ideologically diverse, so extremism would usually get pushback no matter where it came from. Lemmy, on the other hand, is much more of a left-wing echo chamber, so those kinds of comments mostly just get applause, and calling them out tends to lead to being shunned instead. I don’t follow political communities, but I still encounter these kinds of comments regularly - and they’re usually upvoted by several people.

My comment wasn’t meant to defend OP per se or claim he was treated unfairly. He knowingly broke a community rule and accepted the risk of being banned. I don’t see injustice there, and I even said that mods are just people and can do whatever they want - it’s part of how this place works, for better or worse.

What I was commenting on was the broader dynamic I see across Lemmy: the general negativity, hostility, and tribalism that seem to dominate the tone of this place. OP’s situation just happened to illustrate that vibe quite nicely. I wasn’t defending the specific post - just pointing out how quickly things escalate into labels, assumptions, and hostility, and how that seems to be the norm here.

I also take no issue with exclusive communities. One for just men would equally be fair game.

Oh, I don’t mind an argument.

I agree that just making a post about not wanting to see that wouldn’t be productive - nobody cares what they want or don’t want, because this place isn’t made for them. But that’s also no less productive than the angry posts themselves. Simply complaining isn’t productive, and that applies to both examples.

However, discussing these topics and what to do about them is productive - as is engaging in a conversation about whether simply expressing anger serves any useful purpose. He acknowledged he was breaking the rules and was willing to get banned for it, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be frustrated when that also results in being banned from other communities whose rules he hadn’t actually broken. Especially when that comes with the misogynist-label which almost definitiely isn’t true.

OP said his post was about the angry posts coming from that community so that’s what I was commenting on.

Mods and admins here are just regular people. They can ban you simply because they don’t like your username, and there’s not really anything you can do about it. It’s clearly not ideal, but I guess that’s just the nature of the Fediverse. On the other hand, you can make a new account in about two minutes and be unbanned - so there’s that.

I do sympathize with you. While I can’t read the deleted post, you said it was written in good faith, so I believe you. Like everyone else, you see issues in your environment - but unlike most people, you actually try to understand them and find solutions. And for that, you get nothing but pain. That’s something I find deeply relatable. It’s not unique to Lemmy, but it’s definitely a real problem on social media these days. Most people who comment just want to circlejerk, break things, and throw stones. They don’t want to hear criticism or engage in difficult conversations because their minds are already made up - there’s nothing to discuss. Everyone sees what happens to those who challenge the groupthink, so they don’t. They either knowingly self-censor or have deluded themselves to the point that they automatically agree with whatever narrative is popular. It’s like those experiments where you’re shown a paper with lines of different lengths, and one is clearly longer, but after hearing four other people say it isn’t, you end up agreeing with them despite what your own eyes are telling you.

I could go on and on about this. Thank god I get to meet and talk with regular people through my job - otherwise, I’d definitely think the fringe views I see overrepresented on social media are far more popular than they actually are. This whole social media thing is a messed-up psychological experiment being carried out on all of humanity - and no one ever consented to it. Now we’re just reaping what we sowed.

I have the amounts and cooking time written under the lid of each food item so that I don’t need to ever think how much I need.

And you can make it clear without lies or misrepresentation.

You can argue that one side is worse than the other all day long - but that’s not what I was talking about. I’m pointing out that reducing an entire group to caricatures and using that to justify dishonest or hostile behavior isn’t helpful. It shuts down conversation and feeds the same tribal mindset you claim to oppose.

you might as well join them.

I don’t see how that furthers your cause. Quite a few have already joined them, as you might’ve noticed - and this kind of rhetoric isn’t exactly helping with that.

Insulting the person you’re talking to isn’t very effective way to clear up that confusion. You have a nice day.