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No, I have a lot of experience in liberal organizations and they are not, despite the memes, closer to conservatism than progressivism. It honestly makes me feel like most people on lemmy have never really worked with liberal groups.

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention, both Liberals and progressives are fine with intervention, only the threshold changea. We want the same things, mostly, but disagree on how to get them.

Conservatives, philosophical Conservatives anyway, won’t typically even consider such a thing, and often do not even want the same things as Liberals or progressives.

This both sides same stuff just hurts progressive causes, because it sours mushy people with little to no real philosophy on voting for liberal parties. Those people flip flop back to Conservatives when they get angry and we lose the progress we’ve made, as is about to happen in Canada.

I know that conflating Liberals and Conservatives is practically lemmys official pass time, but I have to point out they are not the same.

Very interesting results, especially with the rise of AI Bot driven interviews who could filter people out over it.

Trump is that you? Quick, where was Obama born, what did your men find out?

Godwin thinks Trump Hitler comparisons are totally fair because Trump is a fascist looking to install a fascist regime in America. It’s a good read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/20/godwins-law-trump-hitler-comparisons/

No, I’m not.

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Gross, classic rock /pop are full of gross stories like that.

Caroline, every time. Easy choice.

Sweet Home Alabama really grinds my gears. Neil Young sings about systemic racism in the south and Skynard retorts ‘yea some people here are racist ♪ but not all of us are ♪ frig off Neil Young♪ whoa now look at the sky’. Horse shit lyrics, sick composition.

If outkast had as many tarps as they have pets that roof might still be up.

I love when owners give a sassy response, or when a one star review tells a story about the owner that makes me laugh.

My favorite local pizza shop is several generations family run, everything from scratch, and everything is done a certain way. I know everyone who works there and has ever worked there, and when me and the boys read this review, even though we all moved away, we knew it was true because it’s completly on brand.

Best Pizza going, but their menu is on bristle board and they don’t do complicated orders.

I call it a sock chair, but I see where they’re coming from.

Ah yes, classic gish gallop. You make 10 claims with no support and everyone else needs to do the legwork.

Yet I present you with a single term, gish gallop, and you ask me for the definition. Curious this double standard. Further demonstration that you are an unserious person making an unserious argument.

You’re picking fights, more or less.

Now, let me pick one of your points to counter and at the same time demonstrate why the gish gallop makes you unserious.

A serious person would, for example, not just ask why men have a 3x higher suicide rate, but would at least cover the gender paradox and therefore recognize that young women have higher rates of suicidal ideation and attempt suicide more often than men of the same age. Women overall attempt suicide 2 to 4x more often but have a lower completion rate. Gender discrepancies in suicide completion come down to myriad factors including the tool used and strength differences, not typically found to be due to men getting a bad deal from society though, or whatever point you wanted to make.

So here’s the thing, you get to make that 3x claim devoid of meaningful sources and context (and I will reply in turn ala Hitchens Razer) , and in a single sentence tucked in the middle of a pile of other claims. Me, on the other hand, have to write a whole paragraph to dispute it. Now imagine how long and involved a reply to the full gish gallop is. It will, in fact, be longer to address each and every talking point you make than it was for you to write it. Worse, you push the burden of finding evidence for your claims off onto others. Worse still, as you’ve already demonstrated, being called out leads you to ad hominem and strawman arguments.

You aren’t serious and nobody should feel obligated to reply to you as if you are.

You didn’t make objective arguments, you made ten assertions in the form of questions, without sources or papers or support, and then attacked me personally with a story you made up on the spot with absolutely no true knowledge of me or my background.

You have no credibility, and nobody should listen to you, and certainly nobody should waste time cataloging, researching, sourcing and then articulating a response to that gish gallop.

A gish gallop, easily googled, is when someone makes a large number of arguments regardless of quality instead of quality arguments.

Other approaches to debate you should get familiar with are ad hominem and strawman, I won’t answer your questions about those though because, like the gish gallop, they are easily googled.

This is a gish gallop and nobody should take such a thing seriously.

Fossil fuels produce terrible waste we store in the air that we breathe.

I’m in this meme.

But more often I’ve been sent to buy something down hidden screams lane.

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Goodbye Archie’s Creek.