Bonehead

Yes, and the PS2 was still more expensive than anything else on the market at the time. Plus there were shortages. I didn’t even see a PS2 until mid 2002 when a coworker finally got one and invited us over for a party.

You forget how ridiculously difficult and expensive it was to buy a PS2 when it was released.

Don’t worry. When I tell someone “Have a nice day.”, that means I’ve blocked them and will no longer engage with them.

I also understand that the advantage of encountering a bear is that they would know to immediately run the fuck away.

You’ve completely missed the point of picking the bear. It has nothing to do with the bear. Have a nice day.

Individual men were hurt by feeling classified as more dangerous to a random woman than a bear in the woods when their lived experiences place them well below that threat

It’s quite obvious which side you’ve picked. You talk about men’s lived experiences while complaining that women talking about their lived experiences “trampled over a lot of innocent men.”

There’s no point in debating this. If you’re really just a spectator, then you wouldn’t be actively arguing about it. But I don’t have to play along with this. That’s my choice…

It’s one thing to say that you feel hurt by the idea that a woman would choose a bear over you. It’s another to argue that they are wrong to make that choice and that women are just being irrational. You have every right to feel hurt and to express that you feel hurt. You don’t have the right to tell anyone else what choice to make. That’s the line that was crossed. That’s where they were no longer innocent men. Of course you’re not going to win an argument when you try to control other people’s choices. The entire reason women choose the bear is because of men trying to control them. You don’t have to like that choice, but you do have to accept it because it’s not your choice to make.

That’s the real winning move…accepting women’s choices, no matter how “wrong” you think it is.

The choice may have been controversial, but the number of men telling women they are being stupid and irrational for picking the bear was unnecessary. Not to mention that it totally explained why women pick the bear.

You’d think, but after that man vs bear thing I realized this place can be just as bad. Some instances are tolerant, but other seem to be more combative and less tolerant. The only benefit here is that I can block the less tolerant instances and people more easily.

Bring the tire with you when you pay the fine so they can take the boot off. All this does is create an inconvenience instead of immobilizing the vehicle.

What’s stops someone from simply changing the tire? This seems like a bad design for a boot.

With a built-in clothes dryer!

Decimate my fapping addiction? I think you mean exacerbate…

I quit every single weekday!

This post is far from being the first relating to the experience of sexual abuse

Yeah, and? So what if it’s not the first one. There’s no limit on the number of posts about sexual assault that women are allowed to create.

This post is not that. It’s a ragebait utilizing an attack

No, it’s women sharing stories about why they choose the bear. You call it ragebait simply because you put yourself in the group that isn’t being picked by women.

In those circumstances, calling someone to listen and ignoring them telling you they see an attack in the way this is shaped is hypocritical at best.

Yes, it is, which is why I don’t understand why you keep doing it. This is not an attack against you. You’ve been told that several times now.

As a wider point, I also say that we should listen not only to women (but to them too), but also to men,

Fine. Great. Let’s listen to men. But a post about how women are choosing the bear and why is not the place to insist that we must listen to men.

If your priority is prevention rather than pure shows of hostility, you better be a listener for both, regardless of the direction of abuse.

Right. Which is why you should stop talking about being attacked and just listen.

You are not being oppressed just because you’re a man.

We just had to listen to black people saying what to do all along.

You’re so very very close, but you just don’t want to take that last step. So let’s carry you the rest of the way.

We just had to listen to women saying what to do all along.

You’re in a post filled with women sharing their SA stories and explanating why they choose the bear. Instead of crying that you’re being attacked, why not try listening to them. Not suggest solutions, not tell that they are wrong for choosing the bear, not explaining how dangerous bears actually are, not taking things personally because these stories are not about you or what you would do. Just listen, and at least try to empathize. That’s all. If you want to make a post to vent about how you’re supposedly oppressed, go right ahead. But this post is not about you.

Black people have been enslaved and then treated like shit by racists for centuries. That’s why they are associated with criminal activity, not because they actually commit more crimes compared to everyone else. It’s not the same as the vast difference of men committing violent sexual assaults on women as opposed to women committing violent sexual assaults on men. The fact that you’re trying to equate them just shows you’re a racist as well.

Besides, here you agree with black people it’s not just “people venting”, it is an attack.

a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

You said that, not me.

Again, no one is attacking men. A bunch of women were asked on camera by a man, without warning, and they gave an off the cuff honest answer. You can’t get upset with all women just because some made a choice you don’t agree with. Especially not when that choice has nothing do with you, because they don’t even know you exist. Seriously, get over yourself. It’s not about you…

Why should I not compare?

Because there is no difference between a white man and black man. On average, they are physically similar. But there is a massive physical difference between men and women. And before you interject with “ackshually, women can rape men too.” No one is disputing that. But how it is done and how often it happens is vastly different. Violent rape is a legitimate concern for every single woman, whether you want to accept it or not.

Purposefully putting myself to what group?

a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

I literally pointed out what group I was referring to.

You claim that you’re willing to listen, but you insist that women listen to you and accept your solutions without question. You claim you’re being attacked, when women are asked the question on camera without directing it at any specific person. You claim women are wrong to feel that way, without ever asking why they feel that way and what experiences lead to that decision. You claim you’re standing up for yourself, against women that would choose to be alone with a bear rather than a random unknown man.

No one wants your solutions. No one asked for your solutions. No one is attacking you, because no one even knows who you are. No woman is wrong for feeling anything. And no woman should be forced to choose any man are not comfortable with, even if you’re a “nice guy”. It’s not about you…

would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear or a black person”

Stop comparing yourself to black men. This isn’t about race.

And that’s what men in the feminist conversations normally do - listen and care and respect. I am no exception.

Yeah, except…

If women expect men to listen, could they please listen for once?

You don’t want to listen. You’re just waiting for your turn to talk.

a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

Again, you are purposely putting yourself in that group and getting offended by it. You are not being oppressed just because someone who doesn’t even know you exist would rather not be alone with you.

And that’s where we have to interject.

Which is why women are choosing the bear. Unfortunately you don’t seem to get that. You don’t have to interject, because it’s not about you.

You want someone to listen to you? You want “respect”? You have to give it first. That’s how life works. You can either go around being respectful to other people, and if it’s reciprocated then great but if not then you move on. Or you can go around being disrespectful to everyone until you get respect first, and people will rightfully treat you the same way.

Women are not venting to you. They are just venting. You are choosing to inject yourself into the conversation and demand that they listen to you first. You’re demanding that they accept your solutions without question. And then you wonder why no one wants to listen to you. If you’re unwilling to see that, that’s your problem.

You are not owed reciprocation. You are not owed appreciation. No one is asking you to listen to them. You’ve taken it upon yourself to respond to a woman making a general statement that’s not directed at you. You made that choice.

It’s not the responsibility of women to ensure that you do not become radicalized. You have to take ownership of your own life and the choices that you make. That includes the choice to become aggressive, or hostile, or to become a rapist. Women don’t make you do those things. You decide to do those things, no matter how you try to justify it. The choice is yours alone.