Can you call them if your shop is broken into?

  • dukeofdummies@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ironically, kinda.

    Think about it. If somebody else threatens you for money, you won’t have any money to give them when they threaten you.

    It’s one of the reasons why you’ll often hear about “turf”. “Don’t start anything on my turf” It’s because everyone wants to be the only game on their turf so they don’t have to compete.

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    7 months ago

    My dad used to pay protection money for his corner shop up to like 2010 – every week a couple of scary guys would show up to collect, and you could always spot some familiar dudes hanging around every 2 blocks or so keeping an eye on things.

    Absolutely they did protect his shop, at least the 1 or 2 times a year some uniformed guy would show up with a knife thinking he was about to get some easy money (cops were very slow to respond on our part of town).

    Also I think this gang must have been pretty chill, never heard of them having been too harsh on people who didn’t pay for protection, nor having mugged or killed anyone, and they never even beat up the guys that tried to rob our store too badly. Pretty sure they never even dealt anything harder than weed or steroids but maybe they had something to do with contraband, idk.

    By the end of the decade my dad would constantly be busy with a bunch of other stuff so I often tended to the shop, and obviously I kept paying them. Thankfully no one ever tried to rob the store while I was subbing for my dad but the vibe started to get a little weird for my taste.

    The gang must had been growing a lot because I rarely recognized the guys who came to collect, and soon after, a couple of addicts started hanging around, then pass a couple months and way more often you’d hear about so and so having been mugged – no one would say it out loud but people suspected it had been guys from the gang.

    Eventually the cops finally started cracking down on racketeering so we never again had anyone come collect protection money, but if you ask me, I would’ve stopped paying anyway because I just love spreading misinformation online, also my dad started to beat me up with jumper cables, so yeah.

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    7 months ago

    I know someone whose family founded a small retail chain (with like 5 shops or something, each operated by another relative) in an east European country shortly after the fall of the iron wall that is, well, pretty much associated with mafia-like structures.

    According to her after the initial mayhem they did have a group establish themselves that was more “mafia” like. Think black suits,old Mercedes Benz cars,etc. They actually had a “emergency number” they were supposed to call and where someone picked up 24/7. And according to her someone actually came - unlike the police back then (who also wanted money). They responded fairly fast - and to them it seemed like they actually at least tried to find perpetrators. But they were never quite sure if some of the people who robbed them were actually sent by these groups themselves to prove how much the shops needed protection. Over the times things got more extreme and the “group” only wanted money to protect people from themselves - possibly because drugs got involved and the “thugs” got younger. But at least then the police stepped up their game and did more.

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      7 months ago

      Did they (the gangs who asked for protection money) actually ever catch the people responsible or blamed to be responsible?

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        7 months ago

        From what I understand,yes, but she said “they showed us a guy they beat to pulp, he said he is sorry. But the guy wore a ski mask when he robbed my aunt. How should we know if it was him or if that was just some homeless person?”

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    7 months ago

    Depending on the political climate, non state organisations can help resolve community issues and provide protection, while the official government views them as gangs / terrorists. For example, in Northern Ireland.

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          7 months ago

          If you can’t see the difference between taxes and extortion then you’re either extremely naive or really really dumb… In functioning democracies, taxes are used for the good of all.

          Extortion money goes to the mob boss.

          Then again, maybe you’re American? That would explain something too, as (again) you need an actual functioning democracy for taxes to work correctly

          • Flax@feddit.uk
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            7 months ago

            Ah yes, I’m an American using the main UK based instance of Lemmy

            • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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              7 months ago

              Sooooo, dumbass it is, then? You equate taxes with extortion. If you’re not a dumb American, there aren’t many other categories to place you.