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Right. My point is that mac people pay absurd prices for their equipment. For what you listed that’s not amazing value. 512 ssd is a joke, that’s like 35$ wholesale for an nvme. I get that the ram inside the cpu is more expensive but my god they make bank on their hardware markup.
Whoa I checked they use raw nand chips right on the main board. Certainly helps with size but you are totally locked in forever with that size (short of some serious soldering skills to replace)
Here's a more detailed comparison:
Intel Core Ultra 9185H:
Pros:
Higher RAM speed (7467 MHz) and larger maximum memory (96 GB).
More CPU threads (22) and supports multithreading.
Supports more displays (4).
Cons:
Higher power consumption compared to the M4.
Higher price point compared to the M4 Mac Mini.
Apple M4 (8-core CPU) in the M4 Mac Mini:
Pros:
Exceptional performance per watt (power efficiency).
Lower price point and better value for the performance.
Cons:
Lower RAM speed (6400 MHz) and smaller maximum memory (24 GB) compared to the Ultra 9185H.
Fewer CPU threads (8).
Supports fewer displays (2).
In summary:
If you prioritize raw power, multi-threaded performance, and memory capacity, the Ultra 9185H is the better choice.
However, if you prioritize power efficiency, budget, and value for the money, the M4 Mac Mini is the more appealing option.
Agreed.i really want a powerful non dgpu high efficiency unit. The amd current gen don’t cut it and always pair with horrific bad wifi on laptops. Maybe Strix point?
Each to their own. Yes I am aware of what I posted. They (apple) make excellent hardware. I choose products that live on for years, not at the mercy of a closed environment. I want to do what I want with my hardware. We have different needs and I respect your choices.
The new 2025 laptops with 50xx gpus are exceedingly expensive. We’re talking MacBook pro with 32GB ram prices!
And the stocks are so low that its impossible to buy
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Right. My point is that mac people pay absurd prices for their equipment. For what you listed that’s not amazing value. 512 ssd is a joke, that’s like 35$ wholesale for an nvme. I get that the ram inside the cpu is more expensive but my god they make bank on their hardware markup.
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Omg they solder the nvme. Disgusting.
Whoa I checked they use raw nand chips right on the main board. Certainly helps with size but you are totally locked in forever with that size (short of some serious soldering skills to replace)
At least you can replace it easier on the m4 mini
https://youtu.be/eLtE2kMTVOQ
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I know it doesn’t have the efficiency of an m4 but…
https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Computer-5600MHz-PCIe4-0-Thunderbolt/dp/B0D9GDQXKG
Here's a more detailed comparison: Intel Core Ultra 9 185H: Pros: Higher RAM speed (7467 MHz) and larger maximum memory (96 GB). More CPU threads (22) and supports multithreading. Supports more displays (4). Cons: Higher power consumption compared to the M4. Higher price point compared to the M4 Mac Mini. Apple M4 (8-core CPU) in the M4 Mac Mini: Pros: Exceptional performance per watt (power efficiency). Lower price point and better value for the performance. Cons: Lower RAM speed (6400 MHz) and smaller maximum memory (24 GB) compared to the Ultra 9 185H. Fewer CPU threads (8). Supports fewer displays (2). In summary: If you prioritize raw power, multi-threaded performance, and memory capacity, the Ultra 9 185H is the better choice. However, if you prioritize power efficiency, budget, and value for the money, the M4 Mac Mini is the more appealing option.deleted by creator
Agreed.i really want a powerful non dgpu high efficiency unit. The amd current gen don’t cut it and always pair with horrific bad wifi on laptops. Maybe Strix point?
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Each to their own. Yes I am aware of what I posted. They (apple) make excellent hardware. I choose products that live on for years, not at the mercy of a closed environment. I want to do what I want with my hardware. We have different needs and I respect your choices.
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