• BrainInABox@lemmy.mlBanned
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    4 days ago

    twenty years ago people gave the Dems a super-majority; they used it to lock in the fascist policies of the Bush admin and give a massive hand out the wealthy.

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      911 kind of destroy any semblance of reason in the country. Everyone was angry. Tried to talk reason? Just look at Dixie chicks and boondocks version of MLK.

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        that insane mindset never ended and still goes on to this day. It’s why Americans can bomb Yemen for 40 days straight and not even be aware of it. It’s why they can kill millions of muslims and arabs in their forever wars and not give a single shit. It’s why they can commit genocide

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        That’s your excuse? Seriously?

        “Shame people didn’t vote Dem 20 years ago, the gop wouldn’t be around!”

        “They did”

        “Yeah, but 9/11 had happened only a decade earlier”

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          excuse? Hope maybe but now I doubt it with young boys being Tate trolls.

          Naa country hadn’t healed yet for 10 years after. Now? I dont think 911 is a factor but nation has other issues made apparent by Trump.

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            the islamophobia of the 911 years obviously never went away because we have done multiple anti-muslim genocides and killed millions of muslims since and learned nothing

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              Yeah I think you are right there but I want believe the sacrifices made for “security” are wearing thin. Wanted to talk about privacy rights 16 years ago and they call you traitor. Least fox news would which is what I watched at the time.

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            So why did you say "Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse. If 2 party then easy choice.

            Shame people didnt do this 20 years ago and voted gop out of existence."?

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              Cause people keep hating on dems instead of seeing dems for what they are. Opportunists Lesser evils than also need to be removed. But GOP is worst they need to go first. We need Truce with dems until gop is gone. then let’s go tear them apart. But people keep getting angry and shocked at dems bs and then refuse to vote and let gop win. Which is arguably worst outcome.

              At least vote third party people!

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                We need Truce with dems until gop is gone.

                Wrong. Aligning yourselves with the “lesser evil” makes you evil as well and compromises your entire project. When you work with the billionaires you don’t have the wheel. You will do their bidding and be smeared for their actions. The only way to defeat the two party system is to attack both parties simultaneously, otherwise you are only reifying it by participating in the back-and-forth stalemate

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                  Thats a interesting opinion. romance of three kingdoms approach. Seems way harder than what i want to do which is use dems to crush gop then beytray DNC. Fighting 2 entrenched enemies instead of one seems like a a rough idea to me. If your strategy is to promote third party im afraid that’s a hard one to pull off but I support it.

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                    Seems way harder than what i want to do which is use dems to crush gop then beytray DNC.

                    You don’t use the Dems, they use you. The capitalists who own the party have complete control over it, it’s a private corporation. You have absolutely 0 chances of taking it over or using it to your ends.

                    Also have you seen the Democrats dawg? They have like 20% approval rating, they are the most hated “brand” in the entire country. In what way do you think they could ever “crush the GOP”? It’s laughable.

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                  that’s everyone frustration. Dems betraying progressives. Its like dealing with loki vs Thanos. Have to use the dnc to maintain status quo so we can promote progressives in meantime. Gop will just push further right and ruin gains.