• BitSound@lemmy.world
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    This seems really short-sighted. Why would I go to How Stuff Works when I can just ask the LLM myself?

    Maybe there’s just no possible business model for them anymore with the advent of LLMs, but at least if they focused on the “actually written by humans!” angle there’d be some hook to draw people in.

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      The thing is, the LLM doesn’t actually know anything, and lies about it.

      So you go to How Stuff Works now, and you get bullshit lies instead of real information, you’ll also get nonsense that looks like language at first glance, but is gibberish pretending to be an article. Because sometimes the language model changes topics midway through and doesn’t correct, because it can’t correct. It doesn’t actually know what it’s saying.

      See, these language models are pre-trained, that the P in chatGPT. They just regurgitate the training data, but put together in ways that sort of look like more of the same training data.

      There are some hard coded filters and responses, but other than that, nope, just a spew of garbage out from the random garbage in.

      And yet, all sorts of people think this shit is ready to take over writing duties for everyone, saving money and winning court cases.

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        Yeah, this is why I can’t really take anyone seriously when they say it’ll take over the world. It’s certainly cool, but it’s always going to be limited in usefulness.

        Some areas I can see it being really useful are:

        • generating believable text - scams, placeholder text, and general structure
        • distilling existing information - especially if it can actually cite sources, but even then I’d take it with a grain of salt
        • trolling people/deep fakes

        That’s about it.

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          generating believable text - scams, placeholder text, and general structure

          LLM generated scams are going to such problem. Quality isn’t even a problem there as they specifically go for people with poor awareness of these scams, and having a bot that responds with reasonable dialogue will make it that much easier for people to buy into it.

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        The thing is, the LLM doesn’t actually know anything, and lies about it.

        Just like your average human journalist. If you ever read an article from not specialist journal on a topic you are familiar with - you know. This seems actually where LLM are very similar to how human brain works - if we don’t know something, we come up with some bullshit.

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          Even medium human writers can comprehend their work as a whole, though. There is a cohesiveness even to the bullshit. The LLM is just putting words down that match the prompt. It’s rng driven, readable Lorum Ipsum.

          If the results were still edited afterwards, there may be some merit to the output, but any company going full LLM isn’t looking for quality. They want to use it to churn out endless content that they simply can’t get from even a team of humans. More than could be edited even if they kept editors on staff.

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            Even medium human writers can comprehend their work as a whole, though

            Sure, but a lot of humans are rather bad writers.

            but any company going full LLM isn’t looking for quality.

            That is true for 24h news cycle of online media, regardless LLM.

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              Sure, but a lot of humans are rather bad writers.

              Bad writing is still a step above rng junk, imo.

              but any company going full LLM isn’t looking for quality.

              That is true for 24h news cycle of online media, regardless LLM.

              Yes, that was my point. Setting up your company to put out more content than can possibly be processed by humans is a glaring sign of their values - ie quantity far above quality.

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                Bad writing is still a step above rng junk, imo.

                I’v read writing worse than GTP. I had to help someone write an essay - and I just wrote it for him in the end, because he absolutely lacked the skills to write a long meaningful text. At at the same time - genius of a percussionist.

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                  Do you think that person was signing up for jobs writing for blogs or content farms?

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                    Have you read some low quality journalism? The whole yellow press can be replaced with GTP and no one would ever see a difference.

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      It’s a combination of three things:

      1- most people still google things;

      2- the more content you have the more organic traffic you’re likely to attract from Google;

      3- displaying ads on your website makes you money.

      Websites full of LLM generated content are just the natural continuation of MFAs (Made For AdSense) and there were lots of tools on sale back then in the 2006~2008 period that promised to automatically create websites for you and fill them with randomized content that is optimized for AdSense.