• Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    unless you are on the side of the enemies of the US

    You mean enemies of the US’s ruling class of capitalists, who are the working class’s allies.

    “Your enemies are not our enemies.” - Nelson Mandela (who, btw, was on the US terrorist list until 2013 and is/was an enemy of the US. Was Nelson Mandela your enemy?)

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        More accurate to say I support Russia’s role in geopolitics — as any working class person should — because their interests are broadly aligned with the Global South’s in ending the dictatorship that the US — and the Imperial core in general — has had on the rest of the world for the past century (it was mainly the UK before; it’s been the US since WW2).

        While much of the economic and social progress the USSR had made has been undone with its overthrow and forced privatization and capitalism, Russia’s foreign interests have surprisingly remained in favour of the Global South (though unfortunately not as much; they stopped directly funding Vietnam, DPRK, and Palestinian resistance groups since it’s not profitable for capitalists). They’ve consistently supported Syria and Venezuela’s sovereignty against the US for example, and are a core part of BRICS.

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          Just curious what do you think of the invasion of Ukraine?

          Btw, the USA is a flawed democracy but it’s still a democracy compared to Russia and most of the countries you mentioned.

          Also from your link to that weird wiki, why is Greenland not “the global north” when it’s owned by Denmark?

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            An inevitable escalation in the war that started in 2014 with the US-backed fascist coup in Ukraine that goes against the interests and wishes of Eastern Ukrainians

            https://iili.io/JX9sm8l.png

            and the subsequent killings of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, like Donbas, DPR, and LPR, by the coup gov for resisting.

            I don’t support the invasion per se. In fact, its goal of suppressing fascism in western Ukraine seems to have kinda backfired from this after all, with the Ukraine gov using this as an excuse to suppress the left.

            But the point is, what else could’ve they done? They’ve already tried to join NATO multiple times from even before the USSR’s overthrow and have been denied (since it’s an imperialist org whose entire purpose is to suppress socialism globally, and particularly Russia) and they already had the Minsk agreements which the US sidelined through the coup. Not doing something about it would lead to the continued killing of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, and NATO getting even closer to Russia since the post-2014 US puppet gov doesn’t abide by the Minsk agreements.

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              You obviously have a flawed system but you still have a choice compared to those countries.

              And they are not only white men.

              This year one of them is orange. Earlier, one of them was a women but you didn’t want to vote for her. Why I don’t know.

              Before that there was a black man.

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                All of whom are genocidal zionazis who can never go against the US gov’s imperialist interests.

                The only US president who tried to do something half-decent, JFK, for wanting to abolish the CIA and giving an anti-imperialist speech titled “Imperialism: the Enemy of Freedom” to seemingly curtail the US’s invasions in foreign countries, made himself an enemy of both the political parties, and was thus assassinated by the CIA.

                Political systems in the imperial core, specially in the US, only exist to protect capital and imperialism, while giving a thin veneer of “democracy”.

                Btw, Putin has an approval rating of over 75% in Russia. Russia is much more of an actual liberal “democracy” than the US, where Trump won despite getting less votes.

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                They have freedom to healthcare and I have freedom to go into crushing debt or just rot.

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                You obviously have a flawed system but you still have a choice compared to those countries.

                As a bourgeois democracy we’ve never really much choice electorally.

                Princeton University Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

                Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.


                Before that there was a black man.

                Michael Hudson on the 2008 Great Recession:

                All of these loans were against fictitious mortgages, mortgages that pretended that there was value there, but there were mortgages mainly to Black and Hispanic borrowers by banks who cheated them, who over-evaluated the prices. The banks in general discovered a new way of making money after about 2004. They could make money by charging racial minorities much higher rates, almost double the rates that they charged white people. There were whole banks and brokers that specialized in this, and this was basically the junk mortgage group. Countrywide, Financial was the most obvious beneficiary of this.

                There were a number of notorious banks that ended up being merged. Bank of America was one of the crooked banks. Citibank was one of the most crooked banks, as has been very well documented. Randal Wray at the Levy Institute and Kansas City published a big explanation of who were these $29 trillion, $27 trillion of loans for. It ended up many of these loans were rolled over and reloaned, so the net amount was not $27 trillion, but that’s how much was given to the banks with this huge jump. Instead of sending the bankers to jail, they made them billionaires. They rewarded them. That was the Obama policy, and that is what makes them one of the most viciously racist presidents in modern American history.

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            Prolewiki is the Lemmy aligned wiki, run and maintained by Lemmy/grad users and staff. Greenland is not considered global north because they are a colony of Denmark. Geopolitically their interests don’t align, and for the sake of economic classification, Greenland is exploited and Denmark is doing the exploitation. The map uploader didn’t decide who is or isn’t in the global north, they’re repeating the classification used by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development https://unctadstat.unctad.org/EN/Classifications.html.

            The USA is not a democracy. Not a weak or flawed democracy, as those require some democratic input. There is no democratic consideration done by the ruling elite when dictating their rule. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B The extent of the democratic process in the USA is voting blue or red. It’s a meaningless and infrequent vote.